WolfpackN64 on 08 January 2018
| donathos said: Religion has been the source of much destruction throughout human history. The Catholic Church isn't the only offender in this regard -- not by any stretch of the imagination -- but it has played a prominent role, because of how successful it has been. It is no wonder that the Church catches flak in movies, especially given the (relatively) recent scandals involving pedophilia. The argument for a "necessary being" is funny to me. Besides "begging the question," it seems to make no claim as to the nature of this supposed "being," apart from any other singular event or phenomenon (not even to the point of being sensibly described as a "being" in the first place). When pressed on the subject, WolfpackN64 says, "I never said it had to be sentient, interpret being in a wide sense here." Well, if we're not discussing a sentient being -- if we allow ourselves "wide sense" enough to encompass the Big Bang -- then we're no longer discussing the concept of God in any meaningful manner, let alone some specific God like Yahweh. The defense of the argument reduces to "the argument contends nothing in particular," so... Though I am curious as to how things would have been worse during the Middle Ages without the Church... |
I gave the possability for a wider interpretation not because I believe in such an interpretation. But because I actually want to give people who think otherwise space to argue along the lines of the same argument. I don't mind atheïsts, only when they bring no decent arguments to the table I start to get annoyed.
