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vivster said:
WolfpackN64 said:

And even that completely misses the point. There is no possibility of scientific proof of God. God's essence is fundamentaly unknowable to us since it is literally everything. Even philosophers like Bertrand Russel don't bring up scientific arguments, this is exclusively a debate in the realm of theology and philosophy.

But these other institutions exist. And your logical fallacy is that if it would have been an atheïst institution, these negative things wouldn't have happend. Sorry to burst your bubble. And there is no "net negative effect". That's a popular thing to say, but the public is not always right. Think for yourself.

I do think for myself and especially on my life all religions had a terribly negative effect on me. It pains me to even think that bullshit like that still exists in an age of enlightenment.

Christian religions are constantly trying to meddle in politics that affect my life, Islam is trying to kill me directly and while I'm not much affected by Hinduism and Shinto I know those aren't that well like in their respective states either. Generally it affects me by throwing my sense of justice out of whack since one crazy person who talks with imaginary people will be sent to a medical institution, while another crazy person who talks with imaginary people will get tax breaks and special state protection and for some reason major political power.

Common sense and basic science that are meant to advance humanity are constantly under attack by people who are allowed to say thinks like "you cannot disprove my god because my god cannot be disproven. Now give me tax breaks and political power because I believe in that arbitrary thing that cannot be proven". Yes, it affects my life and that of millions of others exclusively negatively.

everyone without fail believes in bs and the reason for that is not religion, its because humans are extremely limited inherently, so it is impossible for anyone to have a complete picture of the world 

that leads to gaps and we fill those gaps with assumptions that often are proven wrong and that goes for EVERYBODY, especially scientists actively working to discover new things

 

"Common sense and basic science that are meant to advance humanity are constantly under attack by people who are allowed to say thinks like "you cannot disprove my god because my god cannot be disproven."

as i stated above, common sense and science are in constant flux and yes they should be attacked and refined into something better as we discover more

and what if you're wrong? suppose god does exist? you can't prove it does not