Hollywood anti catholic bullshit needs to stop

[vivster]

WolfpackN64 said:

vivster said:

The scientific statement is "there is no proof of a god". Believing in something without any verifiable proof is something US presidents do and is generally nothing that could be recommended to the general public.

All the good things the church once did aren't things that couldn't have been done by other institutions. Being socially minded is not something the Church invented, you know. I don't see how commending the Church for sometimes showing human decency does somehow absolve the net negative effect religion had on humanity.

If we completely ignore all the terrible and positive things Religion has done in the past we will still come to the conclusion that right now in today's society, religion has a negative effect on basically everything, human decency included. Nothing any Church does today cannot be done by any other institution, yet we're still stuck with all the negative things it brings.

And even that completely misses the point. There is no possibility of scientific proof of God. God's essence is fundamentaly unknowable to us since it is literally everything. Even philosophers like Bertrand Russel don't bring up scientific arguments, this is exclusively a debate in the realm of theology and philosophy.

But these other institutions exist. And your logical fallacy is that if it would have been an atheïst institution, these negative things wouldn't have happend. Sorry to burst your bubble. And there is no "net negative effect". That's a popular thing to say, but the public is not always right. Think for yourself.

I do think for myself and especially on my life all religions had a terribly negative effect on me. It pains me to even think that bullshit like that still exists in an age of enlightenment.

Christian religions are constantly trying to meddle in politics that affect my life, Islam is trying to kill me directly and while I'm not much affected by Hinduism and Shinto I know those aren't that well like in their respective states either. Generally it affects me by throwing my sense of justice out of whack since one crazy person who talks with imaginary people will be sent to a medical institution, while another crazy person who talks with imaginary people will get tax breaks and special state protection and for some reason major political power.

Common sense and basic science that are meant to advance humanity are constantly under attack by people who are allowed to say thinks like "you cannot disprove my god because my god cannot be disproven. Now give me tax breaks and political power because I believe in that arbitrary thing that cannot be proven". Yes, it affects my life and that of millions of others exclusively negatively.