Nintendo Switch has become the fastest selling video game system of all time in the US

[DonFerrari]

John19 said:

DonFerrari said:

Almost all consoles are supply constrained on launch, so that is hard to see why it's relevant.

I'm not claiming the Switch was the only supply constrained console. I was simply saying that it had a supply constrained month, not a well stocked one, and that it could have sold more if more had been shipped

Understood your point. But still it was well stocked (just as much as most good launches) but sure it wasn't enough.

RolStoppable said:

DonFerrari said:

Sure thing... and sure MS or Sony if launching a hybrid wouldn't have 3rd party support right? PS1 and X360 could become runaway success even with little first party content and still managed to get third parties onboard.

What you are saying is basically that Nintendo is the only one who could make Switch successful despite not having good relationship with 3rd parties, while the initial point was that Nintendo is the only company that could have made a hybrid console which then changed to be the only one that could make it sucessful and now the first one to make it or the only one that could do it only with 1st party... you are changing the goalpost as much as SpokenTruth is accusting quickrick of.

Yes I do. You know Sony or Apple could have done it if that was their idea or objective. Wouldn't be exactly like Nintendo made it, but they could make a sucessful hybrid console.

In response to what you said to Supernova:

There's no reason to believe that Sony or Microsoft would have third party support for a hybrid when Sony couldn't get third parties on board for the Vita which was a known entity as a handheld. If you can't get third parties for a known entity, you'll have no luck getting them for an unknown entity.

The goalposts haven't moved since cycycychris's original post. From the beginning he said that only Nintendo could turn such a product into a such a big success story.

In response to what you answered to my post:

I am not convinced in the least that Sony or Apple could do it. Sony at least has some success stories in the video game market, but Apple has only failure to show. Apple's entire corporate philosophy makes it so unlikely that they could succeed in the video game market. Sony's problem is that they need to put out hardware that AAA third parties approve of; additionally, all of Sony's first party IPs that qualify as system sellers also rely on processing power. So whether it's first or third party for Sony, what they need to succeed is at odds with the limitations that come with a hybrid design. Consider that Sony's Vita had to rely first and foremost on first party support in the USA and Europe - and in the USA which is the topic here - Vita fizzled out at ~2.4m units lifetime. You can rightly argue that Vita was far from ideal execution, but there's only so much tweaking Sony would be capable of. Ultimately, their first party wouldn't be able to carry the system and convince third parties.

Sony didn't even try to support it themselves in the first place so that is enough reason to believe 3rd parties wouldn't put much weight on it... still they managed to get support on PSP that was their first try.

Nope Rol, you read what he said, he was very straight claiming that Switch (as in concept) could only be made by Nintendo, and the post have been moved.

I have no issue with you thinking Sony or Apple couldn't pull it, but you can't assure it would be impossible... Apple was able to make an inovative idea based on others previous tries and make it a runaway success. Sony was able to turn Nintendo refutal on partnership on a first try that gone over NES and SNES.

I conceed that Switch is a good idea and that only Nintendo could do it a sucess by only having 1st party to rely on, but as I said others could have made a success hybrid on their way.