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[Doc755]

Veknoid_Outcast said:

Doc755 said:
Marvel most definitely has a villain problem. In hindsight, Stane does fall into this trope however since it was the beginning, I think it’s a tad more forgivable. Most of the bad taste comes from the final act with little motivation other than “being evil”. Bridges does an admirable job with the material he’s given, it just kind of fizzles by the end when all the motivation is lost.

For those unsure where to “rank” the film, I would suggest doing it as we go as it makes the process simpler and it’s fresher in your mind. Maybe your rankings now will surprise you from how you had them before. Thanks for all the great participation everyone!

True that. Superhero movies in general have a villain problem but it’s especially pronounced in the MCU. After Loki it just falls off a cliff. I guess Pierce and Toomes are good too, but nothing spectacular.

I think Civil War was Disney/Marvel saying to themselves “we have no good bad guys, so let’s just have them fight each other.”  

I think the quality of the villain is how much you invest into it. Look at Hackman and Nicholson. They got top billing over the hero of their films (which admittedly was due to star power and therefore led to bigger paychecks) and so the film spends almost as much time with them as the hero. Now the villain tends to be one small piece in the hero’s story. Loki benefits both from spending more than one film with him and also better writers writing for him and giving Hiddlleston a chance to cut loose. Obviously we’ll dive into this more as we go on, but it just seems Marvel has its successful formula and that does not include a villain that potentially outshines the hero