The Fans Have Spoken, Last Jedi Drops A Massive 68%

[epicurean]

DakonBlackblade said:

epicurean said:

Um, you wrote 3 sentences and managed to contradict yourself in that amount of time. The first sentence is false, she knew she was walking into that and Kylo changed, just as she said he would. What did she learn the Jedi had done wrong? I don't remember any of that. You say she learned to have the resolve to face Kylo, even though she already had faced him once and that that was a good thing, when previously you said she had walked right into a trap - so is that a good thing or a bad thing? And you say she needs to stop pretending she can save everyone in the world when that's still exactly what she's trying to do. 

Like...everything in that paragraph was either wrong or a contradiction.

She had absolute no idea how strong Snoke was and she got mauled by him, and Kylo did not change, he manipulated Rey to achieve power, he manipulated Rey more so than Snoke, seriously dude do you even know what you were seing ? The entire Rey arc is she learnign how delusional she was and mustering the resolve to face Kylo the proper way. The first time she fought Kylo she didnt'realy knew what she was doing, the second time he manipulated her like a pupped, in the end she understands her place in the world. Ppl who say Luke didn't teach him anythign is insane, she was there with Luke, she saw how he was. Then she sees his sacrifice in the end and understands the torch is now her to bear but that she can't save everyone, sacrifices are necessary. What the hell ppl.

I mean, if you got that out of the movie, even though it never implied any of it, thats fine. But don't expect other people to extrapolate these things when the movie doesn't say them. Luke gave her one "lesson" and then quit because she went "straight to the dark". 

I never got the implication Kylo manipulated her at all. He was doing crap on the fly, he never had that plan ahead of time from anything I gathered. If you did, fine, but the movie sure didn't imply that.

Your last sentence is pure conjecture with nothing in the film leading the viewer to believe that.