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DakonBlackblade said:
Angelus said:

You are right that Last Jedi is fantastic on a technical level. It is very beautifully directed, and the visual design is stunning. I also think all the actors do a good job with what they're given.

Lets not pretend though that the plot is in any way above a DC movie. It REALLY isn't. That's not even subjective. The entire plot of the last Jedi wouldn't happen if any of the people in it behaved like actual human beings. That is a fact. The movie just expects you not to care, because it's so pretty. That's not even going into all the minutia of how it breaks the continuity of Star Wars as it's been presented to this point.

Thats not true at all, the movie have a very clear motiff, the young spuring on the elders and the elders teaching the young. Every single one of the 3 new protagonists make terrible decision because they ahven't listened to theier elders and they all fail their quests. However thei energy and impetus motivate the elders to never give up and in the end of the movie all 3 new protagonists have learned from the elders and have grown in some significant and evident way (Poe more so than anyone else). Are there conviniences and Ex machinas on the scrip, ye sure but I dare you to find one script ever that doesn't. Its highly unlikedly that Ep VIII will win awards for its script, but it has a very solid one, it does exactly what it set out to do and the character arcs all lead somewhere withitm the movie. 

What did Rey learn from Luke (or anyone, really)? What terrible decision did she make? She was right about everything except Kylo turning, even though it could be argued he did turn to some degree. 



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