The Fans Have Spoken, Last Jedi Drops A Massive 68%

[thismeintiel]

DakonBlackblade said:

thismeintiel said:

And you state your opinion without evidence. You are right that Disney knows the business. If they honestly believed the calender was all it took to be 31% down after just 17 days, which amounts to being $450M+ down, they wouldn't release it at this time of year. The fact is the calendar means jack. Xmas eve and New Year's eve is just two days. There are plenty of days for people to go watch if they wanted to, which would  make up a lot of the losses. Instead they only grew.

And no, my argument comes down to an obvious fan backlash, which has manifested itself in low user ratings, countless negative YouTube videos and tweets, and a massive drop in BO revenue. It also includes comparisons to the OG trilogy. At 5 weeks in, ESB was 230% above ANH, $47.3M VS $20.5M.  ANH followed a trajectory more like Avatar, where it opened lower, but stayed consistent. ESB followed one more like the common blockbuster, opening big and then seeing declines, though it saw small ones and a few rises.  At 41 weeks, ANH was only $6.1M above ESB, meaning that if ESB was only out in theaters for 41 weeks, it would only be down by 3%.  But, for the sake of argument, let's say it had a full year, or 52 weeks (I can't really find any concrete data on how long its initial run was), at the theater. If we had all the data, I would not be surprised that that gap only grew to being 10%-15% down. The only reason it grew to 32% is because ANH had an extra ~6 months at the box office.

So, you guys can continue to have your blinders on and believe there is no backlash and only the calendar (lol) caused the movie to be this far off, but I choose to live in the real world. Also, the foreign markets don't care about SW? Bwahahaha. That's a riot, man. You here all week?  

Saying that evidence of a backlash having any negative impact is that this movies is not managing to do the same number as the second greatest BO of all time and the bigest USA BO of all time is shortsighted to say the least. Ep VIII will likely end in the 1.3 - 1.5 bil neighborhood, and thats considering it had none of the anticipation built over the years of no Star Wars that ep VII had and that it is the second movie in a trilogy, wich is historicaly always the worst performer out of a 3 parter. If the backlash is affecting BO its is having no engative effect whatsoever, this movie is faring as well as could be expected, considering its second week overall numbers maybe even a bit better than that since it has already surpassed Rogue One in this short amount of time.

KLAMarine said: 

Star Wars is a huge franchise and having access to that franchise means needing to go through Disney. Not everyone is invited to a press screening, a privilege that can be revoked at any time which means your review gets out later than all the other reviews which in turn costs you visits of your review website.

That's one way critics could be influenced.

Just stop, there is no way to influence or to "buy" millions of critics from hundreds of different countrys around the world. This bulshit conspiracy theory has gone too far. Disney somehow always buy critics and yet Warner, Sony and other studios don't, its nonsensical to the extreme that anyone actualy believes that. Seriously ppl the answer here isn't some crazy scheme, it is the simple fact the movie is great. Is it different from the usual Star Wars film ? Ye it definetly is, very different Id say so. But all that aside, as a movie, evaluating solely what is being presented on screen, it is a fantastic piece of cinema.

Except ESB did better that ROTJ WW, and would not have been down as much if it and ANH had the same time in theaters. Again, not excuses TLJ can use. What's really pathetic is this movie may just match ESB, inflation adjusted, even though the foreign and domestic markets have expanded so much. Something TFA took advantage of, but TLJ was just not good enough for it to matter.

But, you just keep those blinders on.