The Fans Have Spoken, Last Jedi Drops A Massive 68%

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DakonBlackblade said:

thismeintiel said:

And you state your opinion without evidence. You are right that Disney knows the business. If they honestly believed the calender was all it took to be 31% down after just 17 days, which amounts to being $450M+ down, they wouldn't release it at this time of year. The fact is the calendar means jack. Xmas eve and New Year's eve is just two days. There are plenty of days for people to go watch if they wanted to, which would  make up a lot of the losses. Instead they only grew.

And no, my argument comes down to an obvious fan backlash, which has manifested itself in low user ratings, countless negative YouTube videos and tweets, and a massive drop in BO revenue. It also includes comparisons to the OG trilogy. At 5 weeks in, ESB was 230% above ANH, $47.3M VS $20.5M.  ANH followed a trajectory more like Avatar, where it opened lower, but stayed consistent. ESB followed one more like the common blockbuster, opening big and then seeing declines, though it saw small ones and a few rises.  At 41 weeks, ANH was only $6.1M above ESB, meaning that if ESB was only out in theaters for 41 weeks, it would only be down by 3%.  But, for the sake of argument, let's say it had a full year, or 52 weeks (I can't really find any concrete data on how long its initial run was), at the theater. If we had all the data, I would not be surprised that that gap only grew to being 10%-15% down. The only reason it grew to 32% is because ANH had an extra ~6 months at the box office.

So, you guys can continue to have your blinders on and believe there is no backlash and only the calendar (lol) caused the movie to be this far off, but I choose to live in the real world. Also, the foreign markets don't care about SW? Bwahahaha. That's a riot, man. You here all week?  

Saying that evidence of a backlash having any negative impact is that this movie sis not managing to do the same number sas the second greatest BO of all time and the bigest USA BO of all times is shortsighted ot say the least. TLJ will likely end in the 1.3 - 1.5 bil neighborhood, and thats considering it had none of the years of no Star Wars that ep VII had and that it is the second movie ina  trilogy, wich is historicaly always the worst performer out of a 3 parter.

KLAMarine said: 

Star Wars is a huge franchise and having access to that franchise means needing to go through Disney. Not everyone is invited to a press screening, a privilege that can be revoked at any time which means your review gets out later than all the other reviews which in turn costs you visits of your review website.

That's one way critics could be influenced.

Just stop, there sis not way to ingluence or to "buy" millions of critics from hundreds of different countrys. This bulshit conspiracy theoru has gone too far. Disney somehow always buy critics and yet Warner doesn't. Seriously ppl the answer here isn't some crazy scheme, it is the simple fact the movie is great. is it quite different from the usual Star Wars film ? Ye it definetly is. But all that aside, as a movie, evaluating solely what is being present on screen, it is a fantastic piece of cinema.

" millions of critics" - uhhhhh?

I just feel like we must have seen different movies. I don't want there to be conspiracies or anything, but that movie was really, really bad. Like I said, I've never had such a disconnect with critics before, and there seems to be a lot of other people who feel the same. I don't know what this "smear" campaign is you're talking about, other than people just really hated the movie.