The Fans Have Spoken, Last Jedi Drops A Massive 68%

[JakDaSnack]

Azuren said:

JakDaSnack said:

Lol are you kidding me?  You didn’t counter several of my points, you misquoted (for a second time) my initial post, and then you started using strawman arguments.  I was done with you, lol.  Not to mention I never even claimed that Luke was a Mary Sue, I was just playing devils advocate cus you started the comparison.  Despite me doing that, you’re best arguments were to use the EU which is no longer cannon, and the whole trilogy when the argument was about a character in one movie vs a character in another.  You lost bud lol.  If you want to continue this, let’s actually talk about the topic at hand “TLJ”. None of this comparison crap.  

Rey’s force powers were explained by snoke and Luke.

she wasn’t liked by any of the new characters she met.

She failed all of her tasks.

She was man handled by Snoke and was unable to beat Kylo Ren.

so tell me, how was she a Mary Sue in TLJ?

I countered you every time, and everytime you did shit like flat out deny things that happened in the movies happened. So no, you didn't address anything. Luke being a good pilot has been canon since episode 4, but you just deny deny deny.

 

As far as the last Jedi is concerned, tell me: is she suddenly unable to get a grip on matter level force techniques? Is there a 3-6 year time skip to explain added skills? Is she still Chewy's new bff? Does literally everything still hinge on her, regardless of the efforts of anyone else?

Sure ya did bud. You wer using hyperbole, taking one line of dialogue and blowing it up.  I pointed this out and your response was “nuh uh, your wrong cus reasons”.  That’s not a counter lol. Anyways.....you’re obviously gonna disagree, so let’s move on.

Doesnt matter, it was established in TFA, however it was explained in TLJ. She didn’t add any skills in TLJ. They never showed a tight bond between the two.  Nope, it hinged on Finn, who failed, then Leia who failed, then Luke who succeeded.