The Fans Have Spoken, Last Jedi Drops A Massive 68%

[JakDaSnack]

Azuren said:

JakDaSnack said:

1.  It’s never established how good a pilot he is, he’s a whiny kid who brags about everything.  He got into his first X-wing and destroyed a Death Star while a bunch of veterans couldn’t.  Speaking of, Luke was the one who destroyed the Death Star and seemingly saved the galaxy(until ESB came out).  What did Rey do?  Abandoned her friends, got captured, nearly killed before Finn saved her.  Yup, total Mary Sue. 

2. Because she dodged 2 tie fighters while piloting the fastest ship in the galaxy?  Please.  Poe took out like a zillion ships on his X-wing and destroyed starkiller based.  Frankly, the fact that you think that makes your entire argument crumble.  As for Finn, well, he’s a stormtrooper, do you remember what happened to stormtroopers Endor?  lol ok that was a bad joke.  But they never established Finn as a great warrior, just a stormtrooper with a heart who apparently likes blasters.  And he does eventually take down Phasma, and Traitor. 

3.  She had a lot of conflict, remember she almost gave BB-8 up for some food.  But she quickly grew attached to BB-8, I mean, do you seriously think she wouldn’t defend BB-8 after just giving up her chance to sell him?  Um, no

4.  A couple comments from a whiny ass kid doesn’t make it fact.  He never fired those turrets before.  Rey had trouble flying the falcon at first before she started to get the hang of it.  Luke was perfect from the beginning. 

5. You didn’t make a point, instead just mocked.  So there is no reason for me to comment further.  If you don’t have anything to add, then please feel free to resign.

6. Yet Finn had no issues wielding one for the first time.  despite him only knowing how to use blasters.

7. See number 5

8. Yup, no one but Luke mentions his skill, yet somehow is amazing at everything.  Rey had a couple lucky shots after missing and suddenly she’s a Mary Sue.

9. See 5.

Lol, apparently I’m not proper enough.

1. Okay, you're just going to insist on being wrong despite the evidence.

 

2. She piloted the fastest ship in the galaxy through a crashed star destroyer and managed to position the ship in a way that aiming the blaster wasn't necessary. You're on a role with being wrong.

 

3. Except no she didn't, she thought about it for two seconds and didn't. And that doesn't have anything to do with her ability to take out three people who are actually trained on that sort of thing.

 

4. It makes it fact when it's supported in every bit of following lore, especially when you take into account that his father was also a badass pilot. Quit trying to brush off Luke's pilot skills just because you were wrong, it's a well-established fact in-verse.

 

5. Oh, let me break it down for you: when a character was previously hyped as the absolute Pinnacle of force powers, so much to the point that he was the chosen one, you can't just have someone who happens to be a perfect marksman, natural lightsaber dualist, and expert pilot ALSO be better at using the force than said chosen one with zero-to-no training on the subject. So again: thanks for proving she's a Mary Sue. In the future, I recommend you actually read and assess instead of getting upset that you've been proven incorrect.

 

6. And he lost both fights. Go fucking figure.

 

7. See number 5.

 

8. And so does Ben. Hurr. And technically, Rey only lined up one shot in the Falcon. The lucky shots were all Finn, and then Rey lined up the perfect one-shot after Finn's blaster rotation was disabled.

 

9. See number 5.

 

And no, you're not.

 

In my first post I made it clear that I was referring to the scope of ANH, not 40 years of established lore.

1. In the scope of ANH, I’m not.  His piloting skills don’t get established till later. Which is my point.  You have 40 years of established lore vs 2 movies.  

2. She also allowed the turret to get disabled.  Also you’re assuming piloting ships is hard. Friggin Anakin piloted a Naboo ship for the first time and managed just fine lol.  

3. She lived by herself for 20 years or whatever.  She obviously picked up a few things along the way.  Why else would she carry a bow staff?

4.  Again, In the scope of ANH it was far from fact.  If you add 40 years of lore then sure, he’s a great pilot. In 40 years you might find out that Rey was an even better pilot than Luke.  

5. Lol where did I say I was upset? And btw if you have to tell the other person over and over again that they are wrong, chances are it’s YOU that are wrong.  A Mary Sue is someone who has a lot of skills with little to no explanation as to how they got them.  Rey’s powers in the force get explained by both Luke and Snoke in TLJ.  Thus making her not a Mary Sue.  That was my point.  I already established how Rey was able to beat Ben, which you didn’t reply to, so I’ll leave that at bay.

6. Yup. Btw the point was that he could wield it(which he did) not that he was amazing at it. Luke’s lightsaber called to Rey, not Finn and not Kylo Ren.

Im gonna stop listing 7/9.

8. yup, took quite a lot of effort to take out 2 small tie fighters on a much faster, larger and stronger ship.