Azuren said:
thismeintiel said:
The defense of the Mary Sue thing is probably the one of the most bizarre parts of this. She fits the description to a T. But, because people feel the need to like the film and/or because the media and Hollywood have taken the stance that if you call her a Mary Sue you are sexist, people are afraid to label her what she is. They either give weak reasons, claim Luke is one then (probably the worse offense), or just call you sexist, "You just don't like having a girl in the treehouse." All strawman arguments. The truth is, Rey would be just as unlikable as a man. In fact, it's the reason that people hated the young Anakin in TPM. Fortunately, Lucas had the insight to fix that in the future episodes, where here they just made it worse, which has brought more people over to the side of her being a Mary Sue.
Really, if we weren't in such a heightened political climate, I think even more people would admit that they recognize she is a Mary Sue, which would probably take their enjoyment of this movie down a notch or two.
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Anakin never stepped this far into Mary Sue territory. When he was young it granted him enhanced perception, and was justified by him being the god damn chosen one. When he was older, his skill was a combination of years of training and being the chosen one. And then when he finally became drunk on the idea of being the chosen one, Obi-wan cut his damn legs off. Anakin was troubled and his skills were well explained. Rey is just spayshul and can do master level Jedi shit with no training or knowledge of the techniques.
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I agree he never stepped that far into when he was young. But, I think fans could tell where things were headed and disliked the character. Like I said, Lucas had the insight to tone things down a little bit. In the 2nd and 3rd films, he was definitely not the best at everything he tried. I say good job to Lucas, at least on that, but boo to this director for making it even worse with Rey. The scene where she lifts like 30 boulders with absolutely no effort is not only cringy, it pissed me off.