The Fans Have Spoken, Last Jedi Drops A Massive 68%

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Azuren said:

JakDaSnack said:

By definition Rey isn’t a Mary Sue.  Seriously, she wanted to abandon her friends to wait at Jakku in case her parents decide to come back.  But I think you missed Finns story.  His was about all about trying to leave the conflict, and throughout the entire movie he had rose trying to convince him to stay with the resistance and the code breaker trying to convince him to leave.  And at the end he ultimately decided that he was done, and wanted to end it all before rose saved his life.  Now was this story executed well, maybe not, but he absolutely did have a real character arc, one that I personally enjoyed a lot.

You really need to read up on the definition of a Mary Sue. Wanting to go back to Jakku doesn't have anything to do with it.

 

And Finn was wasted in favor of the Mary Sue. He could have had a subplot overcoming his fear culminating in a rematch with Adam  Driver's awful interpretation of a Sith. Instead, he has been relegated to an unimportant status by virtue of "Everyone focus on the Mary Sue".

 

If you want to discuss how Rey is or isn't a Mary Sue, you'll have to read my post a few pages back.

The defense of the Mary Sue thing is probably the one of the most bizarre parts of this.  She fits the description to a T.  But, because people feel the need to like the film and/or because the media and Hollywood have taken the stance that if you call her a Mary Sue you are sexist, people are afraid to label her what she is.  They either give weak reasons, claim Luke is one then (probably the worse offense), or just call you sexist, "You just don't like having a girl in the treehouse."  All strawman arguments.  The truth is, Rey would be just as unlikable as a man.  In fact, it's the reason that people hated the young Anakin in TPM.  Fortunately, Lucas had the insight to fix that in the future episodes, where here they just made it worse, which has brought more people over to the side of her being a Mary Sue.

Really, if we weren't in such a heightened political climate, I think even more people would admit that they recognize she is a Mary Sue, which would probably take their enjoyment of this movie down a notch or two.