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WolfpackN64 said:
Claiming that "The fans have spoken" is stretching reality a bit too far.

The numbers and user reviews speak for themselves. 

StreaK said:
hudsoniscool said:

If that's what you want to take my post go ahead. My entire post was about how it's trending at or about to be trending lower than rogue one. 

 

But if u want to go there than sure. My comparison is about the United States box office. Star Wars is bigger as a brand than avatar, Jurassic park, and the avengers. Force awakens showed that. 

Yeah, it showed it by like $100 million. Adjusted, TFA is in fact in #11th place in the all-time domestic box office and Avatar is #15.

The US, in the end, doesn't matter much anymore considering how much AVATAR made in the foreign markets compared to US. 27% domestic vs 73% foreign. TFA is 45% domestic vs 55% foreign.

I for one care more about WORLDWIDE scale than just a single market. I wanna know how the entire WORLD reacts to something amazing! Like, the impact is so much greater when the whole world reacts similarly to an entertainment product. Star Wars may be bigger in the US but Avatar is ONE of the biggest in the US. In fact, Star Wars can be argues is the ONLY franchise greater than Avatar so really doesn't effect Avatar as a whole at all.

Let's be honest with ourselves, Avatar isn't some big franchise. It just struck at the right time to take advantage of the new 3D hype. It's characters, story , and world are nothing memorable. No one quotes lines from the film. No one talks about it anymore, except for in the context of how much it made. If Cameron thinks he can finish out the rest of his life making Avatar sequels, he got a surprise coming when he sees the drop from the first the next movie has. SW it is not. He's also waited WAY too long to put out a sequel that would capitalize off the first one. 

Also, WW TLJ is also seeing steep declines from TFA. 

Last edited by thismeintiel - on 25 December 2017