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MTZehvor said:
JWeinCom said: 

If these are your ideas of plotholes, then you're misusing the term.  Perhaps you'd like these things explained more in depth, and if that's the kind of storytelling you prefer, then that's fine.  But nothing about any of this (except maybe #1) actually doesn't make sense or go against any of the world's rules.

 

3) Given that not five minutes earlier a Resistance fighter crashed her ship into a friendly ship to stop him from taking out an enemy cannon, and only an hour ago had two coups back to back, I don't think the kindergarden label is inaccurate. And, again, why take the chance? The resistance is scared, many of their members are clearly not thinking very straight, and they're backed into a corner. They're probably not in the best state of mind. Why would you assume that they would be thinking logically when you can just, with a single sentence, ensure that they get what you're doing?

And the idea of Luke just acting erratically is a poor excuse at best. If he was capable of formulating a plan like that and having a last, meaningful conversation with his sister, I think his mental condition was intact enough to simply say "Hey I'm stalling them, make a run for it."

 

Not looking to get involved in the argument for the most part.  I like the film and believe most of the commonly raised points can be easily rebutted, but I know insurmountable vitriol and fanbase division when I see it (been an Elder Scrolls fan long enough to know what that looks like :P ) but this particular point has a good explanation someone pointed out to me:

Kylo Ren and Snoke can read minds, even when not putting forth effort they can sense basic intentions (not that that's always sufficient as Snoke found out).  Luke knew that and I doubt he was aware that Snoke was dead.  He knew he needed to keep Ren absolutely distracted.  That's why he showed up looking like he did years ago when Ren last saw him.  That's why he was so brazen and made it appear he was so powerful.  That's why he taunted him.  If he told them, he knew there was a chance Ren would read their minds and find out his plan.  He needed to bet they would figure it out and escape *after* he had Ren distracted.  And he didn't have to worry about Ren reading his mind because, obviously, he wasn't actually there.