superchunk said:
Farsala said:
I give you 5 more but not with as much writing.
1. Super Leia - She's been known to be strong in force since RotJ. Its shouldn't be surprising that in 30+ years she could use the force to pull / push ... which in zero gravity makes sense. Surviving is also meh as Kylo survived a massive shot from Chewy's bow gun in TFA.
2. Lack of lightsaber battle between anyone important. - I'd put ANH/ESB in the same amount of light saber wielding as TLJ.
3. It's Star Wars but 90% of the movie is between 2 ships despite the longest runtime. I like more planets. - Personal preference.
4. People seem to say it is a high risk movie, but they still won't take high enough risks with deaths or even loss of limbs with the good guys like with Luke losing hand, Obi Wan in first movie and Anakin limbs. Luke only just "dies" - Did you not watch ANH? or RotJ? His death is a combination of these elements in past movies. I was expecting a loss of a hand as well since it was the staple of the 2nd movie. But, there was an cycle of loss in this movie in that the entire resistance is on the verge of collapse along with jedi/sith.
5. The force in general has become more casual, I wouldn't be surprised if in the next movie a random good guy all of a sudden uses the force like Finn or Poe. - The force was found in many people historically but died off due to no one out looking for them. How is it a surprise that a kid can do little things? What is surprising is that there are not more untrained people trying to do good with very basic force abilities.
Edit: Came up with a better one
6: No meaningful/strong villain
I: Darth Maul (he lost/died)
II: Dooku (he lost, almost died)
III: Dooku,Emperor, Anakin (lost, won, lost/almost died)
IV: Vader (lost/almost died)
V: Vader (won overall)
VI: Vader, Emperor (lost/redeemed, lost/died... didn't do shit honestly why is no one comparing his death to Snoke / Kylo's losses)
VII: Kylo Ren (he loses) okay.. (Kylo lost to insurmountable odds)
VIII: Kylo Ren (he lost again) and a few minutes of Snoke (also lost) (Kylo overall won, but lost little battles also due to emotion/mental state more than anything else)
IX: Kylo Ren again... (Spoiler: he's gonna lose) (I'm pegging him for redemption and a return of Snoke... something that will finally demonstrate who the hell this guy actually is... remember that story from Palpatine to Anakin...)
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1. It's never been shown that she has real power like a force push.
2. ANH gets an excuse for being the first film., but still had the ever important battle between top villain and hero. ESB doesn't have much but it is still important within the franchise with that bombshell.
3. Yea
4. No one meaningful loses anything in ROTJ while ANH has Obi dying. Luke "dies" and even you think Snoke "dies"
5. I am not surprised by the kid using it, but I am surprised by the skill involved with the force has been changed.
I. And he fights 1v2 and kills Qui-Gon a jedi master. A strong compelling villain.
II. Again he fights 1v2 and injures both Obi-Wan and Anakin. Then he fights Yoda, one of the best.
III. Yep some good setup
IV. Kills Obi-Wan
V. Yea
VI. Kills Vader/Anakin
VII. Kills Han, loses to untrained girl, doesn't even do any damage.
VIII. Loses again and doesn't kill anyone but another villain. Luke "kills" himself.
IX. We best hope something good happens like that.
The big differences is that the villains haven't proved themselves strong, especially against the incompetent Rebels. The Rebels always win every engagement against the empire while also somehow killing themselves. Both Han and Luke basically kill themselves as do a lot of other rebels. A strong villain would make a strong hero.
