By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close
superchunk said:
Nymeria said:

This statement and attitude are insulting to women.  It is not girl power that is the issue, it is bad characterization and lazy writing that undercut Rey.  If all you need to care about a character is a superficial trait that is a narrow minded viewpoint.  I loved Leia, Luke, and Han for their distinct personalities and skills that aided them in their struggles, not race or sex.  

Growing up two of my favorite movie series were Alien and Aliens alongside Terminator 1&2.  Both had women I connected with because it didn't shy from their challenges giving cheap shortcuts.  They were women, and aspects such as motherhood played a role in their stories, but they weren't defined by it.  In real life women have struggles all the time and are not bailed out by being chosen ones who can do anything with ease.  Condescending to us with lesser heroes who can never fail or lose because we're so delicate is off putting.

If you want to understand how patronizing this is, think of the times older people try to be "hip" using internet memes to cringe effect.  You cannot force a character on people, it is the "Poochy Effect".

You highlighted the one part of my comment that was focused on the very first line of the OP #2. My final line was my own postulation that most people's gripes on Rey are more on her being female than the actual character.

The rest of my much larger comment focuses on her characterization and how it makes sense when you take it into context of the rest of the saga. 

Nah, the character just sucks. At least, Luke had some training, if minimal, to use the force. Rey didn't. And Luke doesn't fly the Falcon as well as Han Solo either. Rey can do anything and better than anyone else.