DélioPT said:
How were the sales of those games, worldwide? Do you know? Because you are making a comment about global sales but seem to be basing it on US sales. Switch's primary premise was "play anywhere"; commercials showed how you could really do that. I wouldn't bet that GTA V would be the best game Switch could receive. Capcom was clearly referring to games that never came out on Nintendo consoles. There's nothing there that points at future games. My point with support has been the same ever since we started talking: it's lacking the big names; we are getting more ports than actual new games; we are still getting more port talk than new games talk. Libraries aren't remembered because of their quantity, but because of their quality. That's why people remembre so fondly SNes and PS2's libraries, for example: they had the very best games. There's no point in comparing the quality of Nintendo's first party output, in the first 10 months, between Switch and Wii U. That was not the issue here. Also, 2 of Switch's big system sellers are Wii U games (MK8 and Zelda BoTW). If we remove those from the equation, Nintendo's efforts wouldn't have looked as good as they do now. I was talking about how Bayonettta is not a great franchise. You argued and implied that low sales of Wii U didn't help the game sell more. I then pointed at Splatoon and how Wii U being a failure really can't be used as an excuse for Bayonetta sales.
I don't know if you have realized, but only Bayonetta can be seen as focusing on the short term. Fire Emblem: announced more than a year away. Kirby and Yoshi, at least 6 months away. Pokémon and Metroid, clearly more than a year away. Nintendo's "focus" on the short term seems to be more a result of the January presentation than anything else. While the majority of games announced from Nintendo, since then, with the exception of ports, seem to follow a different trend. |
First I need to say that is my last reply to you, same like in our previous discussions you clearly ignoring clear facts, totally spin out things, or you writing stuffs that are not true at all, so I really don't see point wasting my time any more.
Its interesting how to fail to see even most obvious things and reasons, in this case reason why I bringing US specifically is because we just got NPD numbers, (in any case US biggest market for Nintendo) we dont have sucha numbers for hole Europe (but those games were selling good on eShop in Europe) and games are still not out in Japan. Again, doing "good or well" is enough that Bethesda make profit and continue supporting platform. We will know what will Bethesda exatly say about sales of their Swtich games and Switch support, I am pretty sure it will be positive in both cases. I see all that, but you refuse to see that they are selling good, we still dont know how much exactly good but good is positive enough in any case, there are reason why almost 3rd parites that have Switch games promised stronger support. You are again wrong, 10m for Switch is sold to users, not shiped.
No, Switch premise is to play Switch "anytime, anywhere, with anyone", and commercials shown exactly that. And users are doing exatly that, fact is that most users using Switch in both modes, and actualy more of them using it like handheld than like home console (50% users is playing it both modes, 30% users is playing it in handheld mode and 20% is playing in docked mode), whitout any doubts proves how much Switch concept is successful (not failed lol), I cant belive you trying to spin that also.
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Again, not everyone, but definitely plenty of people. There is reason why GTA V become third best selling game in world after Tetris and Minecraft (sold 85m and that numbers is raising), and why 4 years after release still is very often in top 10 selling games, so yeah definatly there would be a plenty of people that would love to have portable GTAV that they can play everywhere and anytime they want, and yeah there not single one stronger 3rd party game that Switch could recive.
Lol, you have some very strange and weird points. You saying they there is nothing that points they talking about newer games also but there is nothing that points that they will not release any new games in future and offcourse they will release some new games also, after all Mega Man 11 and Ace Atorney are new games. SE very clearly pointed that they considering old games, ports and new games and you keep deny that!?
But fact is that support is not same, look list of releases and announcements from launch until now, you will see much more releases and announcements how times go (just look how many games Capcom announced in last month only), and we are definitely getting even much more support and announcements next year. And again, we both already agree that ports are also support, so dont pretend now like they are not support.
And Switch already getting and will get even much more quality games in any case (most of bigger Switch 3rd party games are quality games), fact that Switch has strong Indie support doesn't mean it want have quality games, and bigger linuep is good in any case.
Of course there is point to compare quality or how much bigger games are of 1st year of Switch and Wii U lineup because quality and bigger games require more time for developing. Again, Nintendo Switch 1st year linuep is one of main reasons why Switch is seling great, Wii Us Nintendo 1st year linup is one of reasons why Wii U failed beacuse didnt had one single stronger or biggger system seller game, and thats why Nintendo after Wii U prepared several of them for Switch 1st year. Also funy how you ignoring fact that Wii U after launch had a couple of months without single one release, while Nintendo basically released one bigger or stronger game every month without any droughts. Even without MK8D and Zelda BotW, Switch would still have Splatoon 2 and Mario Odyssey in 1st 9 months on market, two big system seller games that Wii U didnt had, but it any case MK8 and Zelda BotW just proves how much better Nintendo managing Switch linuep compared to Wii U.
Lol, I was talking about how one game is very specific kind of game for specifk group of gamers (more hardcore gamers), while another is basically Mario Kart of online shooters has much wider apeling for market and more similar too Mario Kart. So of course that first game will have worse sales in any case easily on very limited user base.
:D You are crazy man really, its amazing how you totaly spin out things, all 2017. Switch lineup was focusing on games that are releasing in near future expect Zelda BotW, so no Bayonetta 1/2 is not only one game. And with fact that we actually still don't know about majority of Switch 2018. lineup we can easily say that most of Switch 2018. lineup will also be focusing on games that will be released in near future.
But fact they showed Switch line up only 3 months before Switch launch also prove they are focusing on near future, not to mentione that over 90% things that are showed in that January event are all released.
And like I wrote to you, Nintendo will show in next Direct in January some Q1 and Q2 games, and you will say OK but what about second half of year, then we will have onother DIrect and E3 where there will be shown more games for second half of year, and you will say OK but what about Q1 of 2019. and so on...and you will still not get it.
