Switch will probably have best 3rd party support for Nintendo platform from SNES

[Miyamotoo]

DélioPT said:

Miyamotoo said:

Bragging is totally different thing, Nintendo also bragged about Zelda BotW or about MK8D sales, again, fact is that companies very rarely commented sales of games outside quarter results, Capcom, Bandai and SQ all commented sales at quarter results and I dont talk only about Switch games.

Here, Neogaf, Resetera...fact is that there are people that are buying Switch for full handheld mode for some 3rd party games, and some other maybe will not buy Switch just beacuse those games, but they will again buy some of those 3rd party games beacuse full handheld mode. You need to accept that handheld mode is one of main reasons why people are buying Switch and games for it.

No they didnt to say that and nobady relly says that. Its logical that when you have platform that sells great and with already solid instal base (already 10m in 9 months), and 3rd party games are actualy seling good on that platform, that platform will recive more and more support, esapcily when that platform cames after failed platform that left whitout any 3rd party support. Funny how you clerly keep ignoring fact that most 3rd parties that relesed games on Switch said they are satisfied with games and promised stronger support.

Well they can work in same time on PS5 version and Switch version of same game in same time if games and Switch are still selling good. Switch library can easily become better than GC even before PS5 comes on market.

Any port of good or bigger game for Switch is good offcourse. No, gamers dont buy consoles just for new games, they also buy them to play ports or remasters of good games that they missed or that they maybe offer some game changer thing (like full handheld mode in Switchs case). Capcom unannounced Mega Man 11 and new Ace Attorney games and both are new games, they announced bunch older ports and they said they are porting more games to Switch, SE specifically said: "we won't rule out any IPs. Those include new ones, currently active ones, currently not-active ones. Probably other platforms will get these too as part of multi, but we would aggressively make games for Switch". Talking about Bandai Namco: "Japanese video game publisher Bandai Namco is adding more resources in developing games for Nintendo's Switch, says President Mitsuaki Taguchi. "We have put 3 games on the Switch and all of them are doing well he said. It's a shame, but we didn't think the Switch [would] be accepted this fast". Koei Tecmo relased couple of games on Switch and they said they are "Extremely Happy” with Switch game sales so its expeted they will relase much more games. Konami said also that they are satisfied with Bomberman sales and that they have "lots of internal discussions going on within Konami regarding what games they can bring to the Nintendo Switch, other than Bomberman". Take-Two is very pleased with NBA 2K18’s sales on Switch, and they are “supportive of the platform corporately”.  Ubisoft said they are “very happy” with Switch sales, more games on the way. Telltale shares more praise for Switch, working to bring past titles over. I will not even mentioned Indies where we have every week some Indies saying how there game sold best on Switch, and we have every week dozens of new announcements.

 

You wrote "If Nintendo has streamlined their production, the release Schedule should be far superior to Wii U - as you implied before" and I gave you fact where you can see that Switch schedule is far superior compared to Switch. No you specifkly said its not good that Nintendo still dont have nothing for Q1, even its fact that Nintendo with Switch dont show evrething they preparing and they are mostly focusing on games that will be out in near future.

Yes two ports that are pretty good and strong games, not to mention that one was on Wii U that has very small instal base.

Even without Indies Switch is killing Wii U 1st year with 1st party games, great games is also one of main reasons why Switch is selling great.

Okay, let's wait for the reports to see how happy they are.

"Here, Neogaf, Resetera..."
Exactly what i thought: a few guys online saying the same thing and you take it as everyone.

Buying consoles for new games and also enjoying ports is not the same as buying a console for ports and more ports.
The majority of people buy a new console to experience something they couldn't do without it, not because they can get the same experiences.
Don't mistake people's rebuying some games as a sign that ports are the priority when they bought the console.

"Its logical that when you have platform that sells great and with already solid instal base (already 10m in 9 months)"
  Yes, it's logical to expect that but this is, so far, not happening because a) it's still a Nintendo userbase (?), b) i don't know why, but it's not happening.
What these companies should be saying is "we are bringing our future games to this console" and they didn't. Actually of the companies you listed, only Ubisfot and Toei seem to be going that route.

Capcom: ports
SE: ports (new or old)
Namco: ?
Konami: ?
Take-Two: "supportive of the platform corporately" (whatever this means)
Telltale: ports

See what a success story brought so far? 
Besides Ubisoft, did any company actively and clearly declared to be giving more support to Switch?

 

I'll say it again, PS5 might be too much for devs to port games to Switch and we aren't getting a lot of exclusive new games for Switch.

Indies do very little for HW purchases. 
In the end it won't matter if Switch got 10, 100, 1000 Indie games.

"If Nintendo has streamlined their production, the release Schedule should be far superior to Wii U - as you implied before"
  If i remember correctly, i also showed that in the first 10 months, Switch and Wii U had an even number of 1st party titles. 
That was what i was talking about.
So far, we haven't got a single confirmation of a 1st party title for Q1. It might happen with Yoshi or Kirby. But so far, we got nothing.

Splatoon also had a very small userbase... 
Some games sell, some don't.

We will wait, but judging based on popularity and sales on eShop Skyrim and Doom are selling quite well.

I never wrote everyone, again, fact is that there are people that are buying Switch for full handheld mode for some 3rd party games, and some other maybe will not buy Switch just beacuse those games, but they will again buy some of those 3rd party games beacuse full handheld mode.

But thats point, some can buy Switch for Zelda and handheld Skyrim. Full handheld mode for games is game changer for some people, I mean you have plenty of people that are using Switch just like handheld, actualy Nintendo survey showed that most people using Switch like handheld instead like home console. Take Two relased new game on Switch and we can expect more games.

But fact is that is happening and we will definitely have much more 3rd party announcements next year (we can bet if you want). Why would companies said "we are bringing our future games to this console" if they also want to bring some older ports!? It doesnt make sense, they will bring some new and some old games also.

Capcom actually announced two 3 new games, Ace Atorney, Mega Man 11 and Street Fighter Collection. SE is also relising Octopath Traveler thats new game. Namco said they are bringing 3 exclusive Switch games.  Again, we bouth agree that ports are also support, and I already wrote to you that ports of older games can be done fastest and that for ports or newer games porting is longer, so that why we mostly have now annucments of ports older games while bigger annucments will come later (next year).
See what a success story brought so far? Besides Ubisoft, did any company actively and clearly declared to be giving more support to Switch? You have some problem with reading!? They are all success stories and basicly all companies that I mentioned very clearly said the are giving more and stronger support to Switch.  

And Il say again, devs can work on PS5 and Switch version of game in same time if games and Switch are still selling good. You dont know how many exlusive games Switch will have so you cant say that "we aren't getting a lot of exclusive new games for Switch", espacily beacuse we already have Mario Rabbids, Fire Emblem Warriors, Octopath Traveler, Shin Megami Tensei V, No More Heroes and Bayonetta 3 announced in first 9 months of console, sp off course we will have much more exclusives getting announced. Bandai said they have 3 exlusives for Switch.

Indies are reaching lineup of every platform, more games is always better for any platform.

But point is that Wii U didnt has one single system seller or big game, we talking about night and day difrecens in that point. Point that there is no confirmation doesn't mean there will not single one 1st party game, and in any case we have 2 good exclusives for February for now.

There is difference when you have good game on failed console without future and good game on popular console with bright future.