Pemalite said:
Azzanation said:
Who said incest have to reproduce? Love is love doesnt mean they have to have babies. Also theres a high chance of having babies with issues with gens too close but thats not 100% chance. People can have issues with babies at any gens so why should we seperate humans from loving each other. We allowed gays to so why not the rest?
That is the arguments we will come across.
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I never did say they HAD to reproduce. Just that they CAN. Naturally.
And that is ultimately the difference.
Azzanation said:
For our sake lets hope Australia doeant give into it because we give into majority of changes.
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Except we don't.
curl-6 said:
Exactly. The "slippery slope" is bullshit because the same ridiculous "logic" can be applied to anything; speeding fines are a slippery slope to banning cars, Nintendo investing in new IPs like Splatoon is a slippery slope to abandoning Mario/Zelda/Pokemon, eating meat is a slippery slope to embracing cannibalism...
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Which is why it is a logical fallacy.
Considering that Australia had DECADES worth of debate on same-sex marriage, dozens of polls dating back decades... Put the idea to a nation-wide vote... And then had the Government vote on it and pass two levels of parliament after the media circus for months and months just to get it passed?
And then a few select individuals ignorantly think that Pedophilia and Bestiality will somehow quietly come next without any scrutiny or protest? Time for them to start living in the real world I think.
Azzanation said:
The fact we allowed gays is a stepping stone for many other things.
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Bullshit. Australia obviously disagrees with you as well as per the vote results.
Azzanation said:
Tell me what's the difference between two gay men and two gay brothers?
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One is two consenting same-sex adults that aren't related to each other and is legally, socially acceptable.
But I must ask you... Who gives a shit if someone you have never met and will never meet are banging each other? What they do in the privacy of their own home is not only none of your damn business, but it's also not your concern as long as they adhere to the law of the land.
Azzanation said:
You give into one you will eventually give in to the rest in a matter of time.
That's my point. Dont give me this slippery slope garbage either. We said the same thing about digital media, 4k, loot boxes not being taken seriously and look what happens. Time changes everything.
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It is a slippery slope argument. It is a logical fallacy. It is stupid. It is wrong. You need to come to terms with that or get educated on logical fallacies and on slopes that are slippery.
A slippery slope logical fallacy is an argument where you assert that one thing leads to the other... And before we know it, it will result in something we don't want... And therefore we shouldn't do the first thing.
So by your slippery slope logical fallacy, we should not have a heterosexual marriage... As it will eventually result in people marrying an exotic piece of fungis on a moon orbiting a planet in the Alpha Centauri star system sometime in the future.
The issue with your slippery slope logical fallacy is that it is possible to do the first thing that is mentioned (I.E marriage) and then conflate it with an infinite number of possible what-if variables to reinforce your argument.
Another example of your slippery slope logical fallacy is:
Do not buy the new Pink Album, otherwise you will start buying My Chemical Romance Albums... Which means you will want to become an punk with green hair... Thus the solution is not to buy the Pink Album in the first place... When the real likely outcome is that you will just buy the new Pink album and stop there.
And like I said before... I am more than happy to educate you on logical fallacies as it seems you are severely lacking in understanding of that area and will thus cling to whatever argumentum from ignorantiam that you can to reinforce your own confirmation bias.
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Your not understanding the point either. I know its morally wrong however you cant argu the difference between 2 gay men and 2 gay brothers. There the same thing so why cant they love each other? They cant reproduce so whats the problem. Men are men and woman are woman who all want to be treated fairly.
Your right i couldn't care less what happens behind closed doors. Its NONE of our damn buiness. Hence why i voted yes.
Australia gives into alot. Gun laws, voilent video games, curtains around swimming pools for muslim woman etc so dont say we don't because we do and there facts.
No need to educate because i already know. My point is we allow 1 side and not the other and that is basically the issue with accepting new things. Also explain to me whats wrong with incest if they love each other? Its been happening as long as gays. Thats the problem with the term love, alot dont know what it means and use it to have what they want.
Last edited by Azzanation - on 13 December 2017
