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Nem said:
spurgeonryan said:

Supposedly he may have been abusive to his ex. 

I'm getting really sick of this victimization wave.

Most of the stories are complete BS. Only the Harvey Weinstein story seems worth the attention and consequences. Well, and the senate candidate that may have committed pedophilia.

The consequences are being far out of whack compared to the transgressions.

 

Honestly, Depp is a skinny guy. There's no way he abused anyone (except verbally). It's nonsense.

'Victimization wave'? You realize that these specefic allegations against Depp dropped way before the Weistein stuff ever was known to the wider public?

Besides, 'Only the Weinstein story seems worth the attention'? What is that supposed to mean? Is regular old sexual harrassment and attempted rape of a minor not worth a mention to you? Is it only worth a mention once you've assimilated hundreds of victims? Also how are 'most stories complete BS' when people like Louis CK and Kevin Spacey have basically admitted to what they've done?

These sexual harrassment allegations coming out of hollywood aren't new to anyone who payed a little attention over the years. Cory Fieldman has been shouting it from the rooftops for years. Is it that hard to believe that a lot of young people starting out in the industry receive unwanted attentions from people who are in positions of power?

Also wich consequences are being 'far out of whack compared to the transgressions'? Powerful men in the insdustry almost never suffer lasting consequences for violence against others, look no further than Chris Brown or OJ Simpson for that. If anything the consequences to being an absolute shit heel of a human being are comparably very limited as long as you are rich and powerful. These people behave like this because they can get away with it, sometimes forever like Jimmy Savile.

As for this specific case, I don't think any of Amber Heads allegations were ever proven in court, since they ended up settling if I remember correctly. Add to that, that they came out during a messy divorce and you will get a lot of people automatically discounting her claims and assuming that she had ultirior motives for them. Depp is clearly no saint either, he's probably a pretty severe alcoholic, judging by his many drunk public appearances an general bloat, but that does not neccessarily make him a wife beater.

In this situation you are cought between 'innocent until proven guilty' and 'where there's smoke, there's fire'. Cosby's and Weinsteins transgressions were open secrets in the industry for years before they went public, in much the same manner as we are pretty sure that Nobel Price winner Bob Dylan is a wife beater and beloved cult directors Woody Allen and Roman Polanski are child rapists. Of course no one is being thrown into jail over an unsubstatiated allegation and neither should they be, but people have a right to question the continued money, attention and adoration these people recieve as well.

While in the absence of evidence, there's no objective right or wrong to casting Depp here, Rowling was expected to take a stand one way or the other and by refusing to do so, she basically repeated the behaviour that she condemed in others, so I get why some of her fans are upset with her.