DonFerrari said:
VideoGameAccountant said:
You're trying to say Adobe's data is arbitrary while providing similar arbitrary evidence. I could say the same things about an Amazon list. It doesn't tell us much beyond rankings. At the same time, it's comparing apples to oranges. Abode wont reconciles because you are talking about 4,500 online storefronts vs 1. Even if we consider the fact that Amazon has over 40 percent of the market, that doesn't account for the rest of the market. And since we don't know the difference between the rankings, we don't know what kind of difference is present between #1 and #12 of the video game section.
Moreover, I provided that data to show the volume of online sales vs retail sales which shows that online accounts for ~50 percent of sales. Because online is a major portion of shopping and Adobe covered a lot of online retailers, we can use the information to make inferences. Adobe also tracks ALL products, not just one sector so one system selling, as well as other maintstream products, is a strong indicator of how its doing overall.
Retailers will vary somewhat due to doorbuster deals, but beyond that, there is no reason to think that the buying habits would vary greatly such as retail buyers purchasing more PS4s or online shoppers buying more XBox Ones. Moreover, how do we know most consoles are still bought in the store? There isn't enough to infer that on its own.
All in all, it appears criticism of the Adobe report has more to do with it not agreeing with a preset notion rather than actual flaws in the methodology. If you have more information on why it's wrong, please bring it. Adobe provided a bit on what their tracking and did it over multiple products and multiple days. It's also not completely new (http://www.cmo.com/adobe-digital-insights/articles/2016/11/8/2016-holiday-shopping-up-to-the-minute-data-from-adi.html#gs.r_SyZIs ). So I think with what we know now, it's safe to make inferrences off the data as long as we know the limitations.
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The same could be said about you defending their analysis because of the console that they have as winner....
But funny enough, you don't think there is anything strange with PSVR outselling PS4 on their list or the fact that PS4 isn't even ranked... while they had their best BF ever...
Will you come and apologize if PS4 is the top seller or will you find a wait to excuse you out of this?
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On the bold, Adobe tracks online sales. Not store sales. If more people are buying PS4s in store and not online, that accounts for the difference and it's not too hard to account for. Moreover, Adobe gives us a broader range of data including Veterans Day, the day before Thanksgiving, Black Friday, the following Saturday and Cyber Monday. The Switch did well in all of those and online is growing. People also forget that I included a Business Insider link that says about the same thing.
And why do I need to apologize if PS4 wins? That's retarded. All I've done is provide the information. People in this thread want to discard it because it doesn't match up to their theory. Beleive it or not, but we'll see what happens mid-December.
