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Zekkyou on 30 November 2017
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Wyrdness said:
Zekkyou said:

Yes, it's competing as a hybrid. Where do I say it's not? It being a hybrid doesn't mean it pulls an identical number of people from the home and handheld markets though, and i'm of the opinion that of those it's pulling from those two existing markets more are coming from the handheld side. You're free to disagree, but both of our positions are ultimately just speculation. I can't objectively prove the Switch has an overall handheld bias, anymore than you can prove the Switch is living in hybrid equilibrium with those two existing markets. On that basis my point to OTBWY was that it's a reasonable position, or specifically 'fair'. I think the alternative is also reasonable, i just happen to currently consider the one I've stated to be more compelling.

Your 2nd point is lost on me. The data literally says that 50% more people use it primarily (80%+ being Nintendo's definition) as a handheld than a home console. Does that mean i'm objectively right in general? Of course not, we don't know the specifics of the remaining 50%. They might have a home console bias that evens things out. That, however, is why my comment includes a clear qualifier "In the absence of more specific details from Nintendo, that implies a handheld bias.".

Because the person OTBWY was replying to pushes the notion that it competes more as a handheld which is the notion you're defending, what backs my hybrid stance is the very own data itself which shows the vast majority using both modes as the concept intended we don't need specific data to see that one. If the vast majority of users are dedicated to both modes than it's fair to say it's selling mostly as a Hybrid device compared to the notion of it selling to the bias of being portable.

I presented a new line of discussion related to the original, with that line being clearly defined in the first post. Who said what before then is irrelevant to me.

I don't believe the Switch is competing more as a handheld than a hybrid though, just more as a handheld than a home console. Those are two entirely separate positions on their own. I would consider a hybrid's default position in the market to be the line between a home console and a handheld, the 50% mark. However, between Nintendo's data and the lack of a visible effect on PS4's sales before, during, or after launch (despite the Switch's own considerable success), i think it's fair to say that the Switch is sitting outside of that exact 50% line. I might be wrong, but it seems reasonable to me ^^

Last edited by Zekkyou - on 30 November 2017