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Kerotan on 30 November 2017
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Lawlight said:
Jranation said:

Can you also say that handhelds are dying and irrelevant outside of Japan?

Yes, I can also say that because facts point to that. Look at the 3DS - in the US it sold about half of what any other Nintendo handheld did before it. In Europe, it sold less than any other handheld except the Vita. The Vita itself, well you know how that ended. Globally the 3DS probably won’t even reach the PSP numbers. And all is despite releasing 1 revision each year and the Pokemon fad prolonging the 3DS life. It also came out at a time where only 1 in 3 adult owned a smartphone, let alone the kids.

When you think about it traditional dedicated handhelds are now dead. Sony left the market and now Nintendo make hybrids. Those days are over. It's now a market of hybrids and traditional home consoles. 

Miyamotoo said:
Kerotan said:

I said the sales are relevant and very important for Sony. I also outlined why. You do whatvyiu do best though and ignore facts you don't want to see.

167k is also around 185k so why not use some made up higher number. Kets stuck with facts instead of made up numbers that suit your argument.  

You're also still ignoring the fact ps4 had ps4 slim, price cut and pro last q4 with a major release in FFXV coming in November. That's why sales were higher. Not because of holidays. 

Traditionally ps3/4 didn't get their holiday bumps until a bit into December. Not November.  

Now I imagine you'll ignore these undeniable facts again so if you do I'm going to ignore anything else unrelated to these until you address this valid point. 

You can't find from facts forever my friend:)

I dont think that Japan is too releveant or very importan for Sony, PS4 sales evrewhere outside Japan are amazing and Sony know that Switch will own Japan in any case, so I think they are not wory at all. 

When people talk about sales numbers they usually saying around 50k, 100k, 150k, 200k...sales not around 185k, and 167k is closer to 150k than to 200k in any case and thats why I said around 150k. Dont pretend that you dont know that.

Again, I don't ignoring those facts, but you ignoring fact that last few weeks PS4 sales are identical and we are closer and closer to Holiday season in Japan.

Even PS3/PS4 start getting higher numbers when we are closer to holiday season in Japan, second half of November and December.

You relly need to know what fact means, you are using it too often and on wrong way. ;)

Japan sales are relevant and are important. 

 

You'd not dare say ps4 sales in the UK are not very good or not relevant. Well guess what? In Japan ps4 has sold a million more then the UK. Check mate. The only country that has sold more ps4's then Japan is the US. And remember Japan even got the console later. Yet it's still #2. That right there kills your silly little argument.

 

The number is 167k. You know it so stop hiding from that fact. It's also 230k on famitsu.  Looks like according to at least 1 tracker I'll be right but I expect it to be on both. 

 

And finally , once again you ignore the facts. Keep avoiding the ps4 pro, slim, price cut and FFXV Q4 issue. You know It, I know it. You're just too embarrassed to even address this point.