Amazon U.S. November bestsellers and general Amazon-based discussion

[hudsoniscool]

Aura7541 said:

hudsoniscool said:

U.K. Black Friday 2016 and 2017 almost identical for Xbox/PS4 ratios.

in 2016 November npd PS4 beat Xbox by 100k despite the pro launch and that same great U.K. Black Friday ratio. So I don't think PS4 having a better Black Friday than Xbox in the U.K. Is directly related to PS4 winning npd. If we are going to correlate the day between both countries than we should also correlate the X's launch. Xbox sold 120k consoles that week, PS4 and switch did like 65k combined. In fact Xbox one x launch week was xb1's biggest week ever in the U.K. Since it's launch in 2013. Does that also translate to the US?

 

Also should  take into account the 2 insidersand npd analyst all have the month as a toss-up. The npd analyst said x should blow past 600k in US This year. That tells me he expects at least 400k X's sold in November npd, possibly 500k or more. 

Last year's UK BF ratio was around 1.5 to 1. This year's BF in the UK may have an even larger ratio.

I agree, the XB1X had a really good launch. However, does that translate into post-launch success? If we look at the XB1's numbers last UK BF and this UK BF, the numbers suggest the answer to be no. Last year, it sold 93K while this year it sold <100K. The lack of YOY increase with the possibility of the XB1 even being down YOY despite the XB1X fresh off the table isn't something to be ignored.

And there are a lot of other factors for us to account for such as the PS4 quickly blazing past the XB1X on Amazon's 2017 rankings before Thanksgiving even began, the $349 Pro deal, GameStop's inclusion of a $50 gift card with the $199 PS4, and the marketshare each retailer takes up in the video game market. InfoScout had the PS4 being the best selling product at Target in terms of revenue even though the XB1S had the significantly better deal at that retailer ($189 + $25 gift card vs $199). Last BF, the XB1 was the best selling product in terms of revenue at Target.

You do make some good points, but without hard numbers it's hard to know for sure. In the U.K. The s could have done 80k for s and 19.5 k for x. That would be solid for x but we don't have numbers to know for sure. Also Black Friday sales are going to heavily favor the cheap entry level slims more than the pro/X anyway. Im not saying that it isn't frontloaded, it may very well be. 500$ or the U.K. Equivalent can only be sustained for so long.

 

id also point out that while the xb1s was 189 with a gift card it was also the 500gb version vs the 1tb PS4 slim at 199. I would say IMO that each deal is about equivalent, neither being better as there's more value for that extra 500gb hd.