PS4 VS Switch lifetime sales, which console will sell the most?

[Miyamotoo]

Intrinsic said:

Miyamotoo said: 

I understand what are you saying, but it seems you dont undertand what I am saying.

NS was out of stock during launch period, but if it was launch during holiday season Nintendo would prepared much more stocks for launch, because they know consoles sell much more during holiday season in any case and that they would sell much more cosnsole during holiday season that they could sell in Match.  And if PS4 was actually launched outside of holiday season, its very likly that PS4 wouldn't be sold out, because fact is that people much easier and much more spend their money during holiday season compared to any time of year especially only few months after holiday season.

I mean even Wii U (worst selling Nintendo console of all time) had good launch because holiday season, and than right after Holiday season sales were terrible.

Sigh..... no. Thats not how it works. It just isn't.

Do you know why "outside the launch window" consoles sell more/have more stock during the holidays? Its because the months leadin to that there would be excess stock from all the previous shipments still on store shelves couple with a slight bump in either manufacturing or a change in shipping methods for just the holiday window.

Launch consoles just don't work that way. They are limited on so many different fronts. Its possible that the NS didn't even go into full production till like january 2017. Thats what happens with launch consoles.

This notion that to meet the launch of new hardware nintendo can just make so many more units because its holidays is false. Its never happened in the history of gaming. Never.... not even by sony who are in their entirety a hardware company.

It has NEVER happened. Look back the last 30 years. Can you show me a console that managed to ship say 4M consoles on launch day? Hell lets even make that in its first week. Be it holiday or not.

If nintendo could have made and shipped 4M consoles on launch day they would have allsold out. Same with the PS4. But they couldn't. Thats what I am trying to tell you. The demand for launch hardware truymps what time of the year they are being sold.

The people that go line up sometimes days before the release are not holiday shoppers. Those are fans.

Totally disagree again, fact is that consoles sell much better during holiday season in any case and that of course goes for launch of consoles also, offcourse that theoretically any same console would sell more during holiday season compared to any other launch date and espacily March.

Lol, you do realise that when company makes launch than make plan how much units they will prepare for launch, and of course they can sell much more units for Holiday launch compared to March launch, and of course that Nintendo would prepare much more Switch stocks if they were launching console during holiday season.

Imagine that PS4 has stock of 10m for launch, when would sell more units, during launch in Holiday season or during launch in March, offcourse that much more consoles would be sold during holiday season in any case. We cant know that Switch would sell 4m consoles on launch in March,for PS4 are much higher chances because it launched during holiday season because people much easier spend plenty of money.

People who go in lines up days before the release are actually small part of buyers during holiday season, during holiday season families, casuals, kids...for self or like gift, also buying consoles, not just fans.

 

 

DonFerrari said: 

Not much value on this discussion man. He is one that thinks Nintendo would stock 5M consoles (outside of what is on shipping channels) on FY2018 because it would make sense for them to do so. So feasibility, economics and others aren't a constraint to him. Nintendo that couldn't produce more than 2M for launch and had 6 months of supply constraint on Switch (and about 2 years on Wii) would suddenly be able to more than double that to launch on holidays (even if they will claim they couldn't provide more for launch because of lack of available parts on the market).

Miyamotoo said: 

But fact is that consoles sell much more during Holiday season in any case and that goes for launch also. Thats why Nintendo initially planned 2m for Switch launch in March, because they are launching console outside Holiday season, they would definitely planed much more consoles if launch was during Holiday season. And you can bet that Sony whould probably planned less consoles for launch if launch was outside Holiday season.

We cant know that for sure, but from start they were saying around 2m for launch, if console launch was during Holiday season, they would work to have 3-4m consoles for launch. It doesn't matter why Nintendo launched Switch in March and not during Holiday season (they definitely had reasons), point is that there is definitely difference if we compare console sales of consoles is they are launched during holiday season and outside holiday season even if they are both sold out.

I keep that in mind, but if Switch teoreticky had launch during holiday season Nintendo would aim for more stock units for launch, so Switch would sold more units on launch.

Totally disagree, like I wrote, there two huge reasons 1st year sales are not best comparison, first PS4 had launch during Holiday season while Switch had in March, and Switch most of time until recently had huge stock problems (and actually still have them), PS4 have them only 2-3 months. So comparing full second year on market makes incomparible much more sense (assuming there are no stock problems any more), than launch aligned.

 

I understand what are you saying, but it seems you dont undertand what I am saying.

NS was out of stock during launch period, but if it was launch during holiday season Nintendo would prepared much more stocks for launch, because they know consoles sell much more during holiday season in any case and that they would sell much more cosnsole during holiday season that they could sell in Match.  And if PS4 was actually launched outside of holiday season, its very likly that PS4 wouldn't be sold out, because fact is that people much easier and much more spend their money during holiday season compared to any time of year especially only few months after holiday season.

I mean even Wii U (worst selling Nintendo console of all time) had good launch because holiday season, and than right after Holiday season sales were terrible.

Nintendo that couldn't keep with shortages for 6 months after release would magically do a better job if launching on Holidays?

PS4 were on shortage at launch as well (even X1 was) and Sony didn't made 4M consoles before release even though they launched in Holiday... your assumptions are ever so funny.

Lol, coming from man that refuse evre posibilete for things that are not even ofical and talking like evrething is set in stone. :D    Just for record, Nintendo never didnt said they couldn't produce more than 2m for Switch launch, just that initial plan was to prepare 2m for launch and that they later had problem to incrase taht nubmer. And yes, they could work to prepare more units for launch if launch was during holiday season if that was plan from start, but we know from start that plan for Switch launch in march was to ship 2m units.

Like usualy you missing point, and point is simple Nintendo would aim to prepare more units for launch if launch is during holiday season, they from start were preparing only 2m consoles for Switch launch because they launch console in March not during Holiday season, but problem was that console were selling better than they thought and soon they had stock problems.

Last edited by Miyamotoo - on 16 November 2017