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fatslob-:O said:
Miyamotoo said:

Fact is that some Wii U owners still didn't bouth Switch (I am one of them), but that relly doesnt matter beacuse every strong/big game is potential system seller in any case, and 3D Zelda games are always one of biggest Nintendo games evre generation, not buy sales, but buy attention of hole gaming industry, and thats also very important for platform. With every new strong/big game Switch receives it become more desirable console for hole market, that's a fact.

You again dont make sense, point is that Nintendo with Switch will have much more similar 3rd parties like examples that I mentioned, like I wrote we already had two 3rd party exclusives in 1st 9 months of console on market, and for instance Bandai Namco already said they have 3 Switch exclusives for next year, and it very possible that Platinum Games work on exclusive game also, and Nintendo yet need to start talking about 2018. lineup so its very posible more of them will be.

I don't comparing situation between WiiU/Switch and PS4/Pro, but possible situation between Switch/XL-Pro with PS4/Pro. Nintendo will easily bring more than twice better and stronger games and much more games than Wii U had. Again, first with Wii U they were suporting 3DS in same time, second Wii U was fail and they didnt want to invest too much in it, and third Wii U had short life (around 4 years) so had less games, its very obvous that with unifeded platform, desire to invest much more in platform that will obviously be very successfule and that will have longer life span, Switch will have much more and much more better and stronger games than Wii U had, and that goes for 1st party games, 2nd party games, 3rd party exclusives and multi platform games.

OoT 3D is remake of 15 years old N64 game while BotW is maybe even best and biggest Zelda ever, SM3DL is first 3D handheld Mario while Mario Odyssey is maybe even best 3D Mario and definatly biggest 3D Mario game ever, in other words, BotW and Mario Odyssey blows away OoT 3D and SM3DL. And dont forget that Switch also had one of best MK game ever, thats also huge system seller, and biggest new Nintendo IP and system seller game that will probably be bigger than Smash Bros. Splatoon 2. So Its very obvous that Switch 1st year linuep blows away hole 1st 3DS year linuep, and that we probably talking about best 1st year linuep (actualy 1st 9 months) for any Nintendo system.

Your posts again didn't make too much sense.

Who cares if Nintendo doesn't get WII U owners on board immediately, it'll happen unconditionally for the vast majority of the userbase with ground up titles on the Switch such as Splatoon 2 or SMO and if not those games it'll happen eventually with the release of a new Smash Bros or even Pokemon and if none of those game did it I doubt they would've been convinced with another Zelda title ... (no point in crying over spilt milk essentially) 

One was a "Bomberman" game which hasn't been a "strong" IP for years so that example is moot and the other is a crossover so it's just as much of a 3rd party exclusive as a 1st party exclusive. We still don't know what Bandai Namco's titles are for the Switch so it's too soon to classify them as "strong" yet and if they also re-clarified whether if it truly is exclusive to the Switch ... 

Switch Pro (XL doesn't make any sense since Switch is already big in a mobile form factor) isn't going to be a concern for about another 18 months. Nintendo will be plenty busy to focus on capitalizing on a new hardware architecture such as moving from an AMD GPU to a Nvidia GPU and making the transition from PowerPC 750CL CPU to an ARM64 Cortex A72 CPU. It still required tons of preparation on Nintendo's part to even come close to matching 3DS's output with the Switch even after Nintendo had ditched their home console from 2015 and their handheld from 2016 onwards ... 

We're not talking about critic reception here, we're talking about system sellers and 3DS had comparable titles on that front since it had 3 of the same big franchises as the Switch did at it's point in lifetime. MK8D is just a port of a WII U game compared to MK7 or how BotW was originally intended solely for WII U but you don't see me discounting those game like you are for OoT 3D, now do you ? 

 

But I wrote that doesn't really matter, beacuse every strong/big game is potential system seller in any case, and 3D Zelda games are always one of biggest Nintendo games evre generation, not buy sales, but buy attention of hole gaming industry, and thats also very important for platform. With every new strong/big game Switch receives it become more desirable console for hole market, that's a fact.

I didn't even counted Bomberman, of course that not of them will be strong, again, point is that Nintendo with Switch will have much more similar 3rd parties like examples that I mentioned.

Doesn't really matter when will be out, point is that Nintendo will not have problem with development when Switch Pro/XL is out. Lol, you again dont make any sense, but Nintendo already done transition to new hardware, its not like Switch yet needs to be launched (how many Switch games they released until now!?), and actually with Switch its probably easier for them compared to Wii U because they had huge problems with Wii U and HD development and first HD games, and actually it's much easier to develop games for Switch compared to Wii U (Switch has much better and easier tools/APIs and Switch supports all engines).

And again, you dont make any sense. No, we dont talk about only about critical receptions here, we talking also about huge attention and popularity that Switch received because those games, those games are very strong system seller games, just look how much they sold until now and you will get picture. So no, 3DS didnt had nothing strong like Zelda BotW or Mario Odyssey, they totally blow away OoT 3D and SM3DL. It doesnt matter if MK8D is just a port of MK8, point is that very strong game and system seller game and actualy one of best MK game ever, and even with MK7, Switch linuep is again stronger, not just game per game but Switch also have Splatoon2 biggest new Nintendo IP and system seller game that will probably be bigger than Smash Bros. Just for record, those titles are released on Switch in just first 8 months of console on market. Zelda BotW on Switch is brand new game while OoT 3D is remake of N64 game, totally different things.

 

quickrick said:
Miyamotoo said:

I talk about downgrade, not made version of existing game from ground  just for Switch, I mean thats why they are calling ports. Switch supports evre modern engine that PS4/XB1 support, so evre game could be ported to Switch, only question is how much would need to be downgraded.

Also this is what SQ, wrote last week:

"Switch's core architecture similar to PS4/Xbox One. Some adjustment necessary, but multi-platform games not impossible", and "(When consider games for Switch), we won't rule out any IPs. Those include new ones, currently active ones, currently not-active ones".

what ever you, yet they aslo said they tried to get FF15 but it wasn't possible, call me when a demanding AAA 30fps gets ported to switch. 

 

http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/09/04/square-enix-tried-running-final-fantasy-xvs-engine-on-switch-it-didnt-work-well-enough

This if from link you posted: "That's not to say a port categorically can't happen - Tabata also made clear that no specific optimisations had been made to account for the Switch's power (which could allow for the full game to run) - but no further tests have been made as yet".

Last edited by Miyamotoo - on 14 November 2017