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quickrick said:
Miyamotoo said:

Evre game can run on Switch (SQ said that last week). But you do realise that third party games dont need to sell same on Switch like they are selling to PS4/XB1!? I agree that 3rd party games are mostly system dealers for PS4/XB1 while for Switch they are 1st party games, but that doesnt mean that Switch cant sell great. I am pretty sure that Doom and Skyrim will sell good, La Noire will probably not sell good even on PS4/XB1, and you will seeing more and more 3rd party announcements for Switch in any case.

Depends how much they wanna invest in the port or if they wanna rework the game, but i think doom proves how difficult it is, the game ran 1080p/60fps  on ps4, and runs 600p/20-30fps on switch, tell me how are they gonna run something that runs 30fps on ps4 thats technically demanding   because it takes 3x the power to run a 30fps game at 60fps.

It doesn't really matter, fact is that every game can run on Switch. On more demanding games they can more downgrade visuals, Switch version of Doom has almost all effects same like PS4/XB1 versions and strong AA, they could turn of some of those effecta and AA and go for higher resolution for instance. Just for record, Doom on PS4 works on dynamic 1080p resolution and have frame rate dips to 50 FPS, XB1 version of game runs most of time at 865p and have frame rate to 40 fps.

 

 

fatslob-:O said: 
Miyamotoo said: 

Its not only about pirates, you have some Wii U owners that still didn't bought Switch, and every strong/big game is potential system seller in any case. 3D Zelda games are always one of biggest Nintendo games evre generation, not buy sales, buy buy attention of hole gaming industry, and thats also very important for platform.

But Bayonetta 2 was also made because of Nintendo, point is same, those are all 3rd party exclusives made for Wii U. Mario + Rabbids and FE Warriors are partaly Nintendo IPs but they are completely developed by 3rd parties.

Point of Pro is to offer same PS4 games with higher resolution for 4k TVs, they are same games. Nothing will realy change.

That's my point, they supported in same time 3DS and Wii U, so I dont get it how you can say "Nintendo was barely able to push out 10 AAA titles on the WII U" and try to compare that with Switch. Doesnt matter if Switch games from this year are not  ground up built, that doesnt change anything they done their job great, releasing more games would be overkill, and despite those games that are not "ground up built" Switch first 9 months on market blow away not just 1st 3DS year lineup, but probably every other Nintendo system also, we probably talking about best 1st year linuep (actualy 1st 9 months) for any Nintendo system. Switch will definitely have bigger and better support with better and stronger games than 3DS ever had, I mean 3DS didn't had nothing similar to Zelda BotW and Mario Odyssey that Switch received in its 8 months on market.

No, but you dont make sense with your points, so its just waste of time.

Forget about the WII U, it consists of the most dedicated Nintendo customers so they would've gotten a Switch regardless down the road whether or not another Zelda would've come. There are many other reasons for them to purchase the Switch such as a new 2D/3D Mario, Splatoon 2 or Smash Bros ... (heck can't even rule out that they'll capitalize on WII U's customer base with Animal Crossing or Pokemon) 

Which doesn't change my initial point about 3rd party exclusives being few and far in between without Nintendo's backing ... 

Except you can't compare the situation between the Switch/WII U to that of PS4/Pro. Nintendo has to exclusively make the game for Switch which is arguably twice as powerful as their previous system while Sony still has to make their games work on base PS4 ... (Nintendo has to bring out twice as many games than they did for the WII U on a more powerful system so the combined resources isn't much of an advantage at all when it is offset) 

Actually, the 3DS received similar equivalents such as OoT 3D and SM3DL in it's first year ... 

My points don't make sense to you because you can't comprehend them ... 

Fact is that some Wii U owners still didn't bouth Switch (I am one of them), but that relly doesnt matter beacuse every strong/big game is potential system seller in any case, and 3D Zelda games are always one of biggest Nintendo games evre generation, not buy sales, but buy attention of hole gaming industry, and thats also very important for platform. With every new strong/big game Switch receives it become more desirable console for hole market, that's a fact.

You again dont make sense, point is that Nintendo with Switch will have much more similar 3rd parties like examples that I mentioned, like I wrote we already had two 3rd party exclusives in 1st 9 months of console on market, and for instance Bandai Namco already said they have 3 Switch exclusives for next year, and it very possible that Platinum Games work on exclusive game also, and Nintendo yet need to start talking about 2018. lineup so its very posible more of them will be.

I don't comparing situation between WiiU/Switch and PS4/Pro, but possible situation between Switch/XL-Pro with PS4/Pro. Nintendo will easily bring more than twice better and stronger games and much more games than Wii U had. Again, first with Wii U they were suporting 3DS in same time, second Wii U was fail and they didnt want to invest too much in it, and third Wii U had short life (around 4 years) so had less games, its very obvous that with unifeded platform, desire to invest much more in platform that will obviously be very successfule and that will have longer life span, Switch will have much more and much more better and stronger games than Wii U had, and that goes for 1st party games, 2nd party games, 3rd party exclusives and multi platform games.

OoT 3D is remake of 15 years old N64 game while BotW is maybe even best and biggest Zelda ever, SM3DL is first 3D handheld Mario while Mario Odyssey is maybe even best 3D Mario and definatly biggest 3D Mario game ever, in other words, BotW and Mario Odyssey blows away OoT 3D and SM3DL. And dont forget that Switch also had one of best MK game ever, thats also huge system seller, and biggest new Nintendo IP and system seller game that will probably be bigger than Smash Bros. Splatoon 2. So Its very obvous that Switch 1st year linuep blows away hole 1st 3DS year linuep, and that we probably talking about best 1st year linuep (actualy 1st 9 months) for any Nintendo system.

Your posts again didn't make too much sense.

Last edited by Miyamotoo - on 14 November 2017