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Errorist76 on 12 November 2017
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chakkra said:
Errorist76 said: 

I hope that’s not going to happen for longer than maybe for the first year or so. I know all that “we’re done with generations” talk but...The next gen CPUs will be on a whole different level and X1X won’t be able to match that nor will the PS4 Pro. I really hope that doesn’t happen since it would slow down progress way too much. Sony has already committed for keeping generations. I really hope MS doesn’t slow down development of things like physics and A.I. that way.

Well, we saw a jump of 8 times in TFs from PS3 to PS4.  So If we expect a similar jump from X1 to X2 then that means the X2 is gonna be barely twice as powerful as an X1X.

So the gap between the XoneX and the X2 should be A LOT smaller than the gap we have today between Xone and X1X.

Besides, when MS and Sony announced they were moving to the X86 arquitecture, I remember many developers applauding the move because that way they wouldn't have to start from scratch with every generation.

So yes, I totally believe that when 9th gen comes for MS, the X1X is gonna be their cheapest option to play the same games.  Just like Xone is their cheapest option now.

 

Like I said, I can imagine they’d want it that way...I can just hope the thing doesn’t sell then, because if it does the X1X is going to hinder true progression for many years. Its CPU is outdated already. You’re right if you say the gap in GPU power will be much less to a future X2... the gap to its CPU though will be immense and a true generational jump. That’s the true difference...the gap in CPU power between X1 and X1X is only 30%. The gap between X1X and X2 will be more like 500% or even more.

 

malistix1985 said: 
Mummelmann said: 
"World's most powerful console" isn't really a huge selling point in itself though, this reminds of when the original Xbox came out against the PS2 and Gamecube, the processor was so much faster and it had much better memory, this was a surefire strategy to beat the giants! 
Luckily, with the 360, even despite the massive hardware issues, MS learned that content, presentation, support, features, pricing and proper target demographics were the key to success (or at least higher installed base). They seem to have forgotten the 7th gen and the lessons learned in the 6th gen already.
The X One X is very likely too little too late and likely won't have very broad appeal with its pricing, introducing a 500$ console past mid-gen, that aims primarily at the relatively small market who owns a proper 4K TV set is not a very sound strategy at this point in time. A similar push in a couple of years with a new console cycle would probably a better bet, at least in tandem with above mentioned factors and strategies.

Different time, however. I remember I purchased a PS4 over a Xbox One because of youtube reviews, video's and stuff and the comparison video's where the Ps4 outperformed the Xbox One really swayed me towards getting it.

It the same Youtube which made me decide not to get a PS4 pro and once again the same youtube that made me decide to get an Xbox One X. People are much more aware of the differences in Technology.

When I had a PS2 all I remember was that the XBOX didn't have a dvd player and it sucked because everyone told me it sucked and that was the end of the discussion, but these days you can really see and look up the differences and if the console fits with you online.

Sure The Xbox one X will never "take off" its a 500 machine but people who want the best experience will get it and that wasn't nessesarely the case 10+ years ago because people where just less informed and had less tools to compare things. 

 

While that is true the value proposition has to be regarded. A PSPro for almost half the price (available for 320-340 already, soon going to be 300...X1X additionally needs a big external HDD for those huge games) still offers a pretty close experience. All recent Digital Foundry videos have proven that, in most cases, the differences aren’t major at normal viewing distances and without using a magnifying glass. 

Last edited by Errorist76 - on 12 November 2017