| NoCtiS_NoX said:
No, I am happy to admit mistakes but I don’t know if I can say the same thing for you. I want a healthy discussion but problem with you is you love to cherry pick examples to suit your arguments. For example using games like Monster Hunter Frontier, MH3rd PS3 and the first two MH on the PS2, MH WIiU. PS2 yes the install base is larger but you are forgetting that not all PS2 has a built-in network adapter. MH is not a popular series before as well. You should know it better than me. Monster hunter frontier is an MMO. PS3 MH is Japan only. Its irrelevant with our discussion about the west? Also not considering that it is a port of PSP MH portable 3rd. WiiU MH- WiiU failed no more explanation needed. The only comparable MH games is from Wii and to some extent 3DS. Wii fanbase are erratic. Mostly consist of owners that loves Wii Sports or casual games. There's not a lot of heavily multiplayer games. 3DS more popular in Japan. PS4 and XBO more popular in the west. Do I need to explain more? 3DS closed area, PS2 Graphics. MHW Open areas, seamless, HD GFX. With the information that we know so far it’s a great leap from the previous MH We still don't have a proper metrics for MH in the west because this is the first time an MH that is build from the ground for home console and in the west in mind. My understanding from the word vague is unclear and indefinite. HZD has a clear similarities with MHW. I know HZD and MHW are not comparable because they are two different games and they are not the same but to ignore they have something similar is a different matter. You are acting I cannot use that as an example because in your own definition they are not similar. Why HZD cannot have the appeal of monster hunter when Monster Hunter does it best? What stopping Horizon Zero Dawn owners from liking the game? You still haven't explained that clearly. I already provided explanations why they are similar it's your time explaining why they don't share a similarities at all or or why you think it's vague similarities. The same can be said with Soulsbourne fans. What stopping Soulsbourne fans from liking the game? Both will test your patience, both have the same combat style. The difference is most of the time you will play with your friends in MHW so the insane grind you are talking about can be potentially off set with playing with friends. |
No dude you gave the examples I highlighted the flaw in them, I used examples of games in the very series itself to make a point you're picking random games with vague similarities to try and build a case. The two previous console MH games have come and failed to make a statement, the Wii fanbase is erratic in your view yet as a console user base they're so far the ones who took the most liking to MH.
Do you know what the highest selling MH game is? Freedom Unite which was released back during the PS2 to PS3 era this debunks the notion that the franchise is more popular now than before it's maintained it's popularity for over a decade now, graphical leap isn't going mask the specialised taste required to enjoy MH.
You finally start to realise the point where you say HZD and MH aren't comparable as games with the similarities, that's the whole point many games have vague similarities in their concepts but because they aren't comparable the appeal don't not carry over you answered your own question in you post here. HZD is a wide open world adventure where you follow the story and side quests MH is a mission based progression game with a tonne of grinding required for each mission. Even the open world aspect in MHW is not like HZD as it's more like MGSV where non of the areas are seamlessly connected you just have large areas specific to the mission, the structure of MH along with the application of its mechanics are vastly different from HZD, Soulsbourne and all.
The irony is that it's far easier for MH fans to get into these games than vice versa.
