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flashfire926 said:
DonFerrari said:

We have an agreement and I would be happy to eat this crow.

Yeah, sure. Sorry, but I get worked up sometimes, and I didnt really mean to be an asshole.

Anyways, I agree that its gonna sell 15-20M and 30M is sort of wishful thinking.

What I was trying to point is that, given the Nintendo was before Switch launch (they were coming off their worst performing clonsole), 10M wasnt non-confident at all. Many People at that time were laughing at 10M and thought there was no chance of that happening, just shows that at that time it was a confident prediction.

Don't worry, I know I can be a little nuisance sometimes and that I can be seen as someone that doesn't like Nintendo because I defend Sony more and have been critical of Nintendo since Switch (that is because when something is successfull you have to criticize more so that it keep increasing, while WiiU didn't need criticism since we all knew market weren't pleased and Nintendo would improve over it anyway).

Ok. No issue for me saying that at the time 10M was confident already and sure if considering console only besides Wiii, 10M on a first year would already be good. But market embracing it, perhaps looking at it as 3DS successor and the unified library strategy make it seem like 10M was low. Now we are already looking at people expecting sales to reach PS4 on LT and so far the support from 3rd party is good and improving.

I'm quite happy that for the first time in a long time Nintendo fan wil be able to play all the games they want on a single platform if they want.

Miyamotoo said:
DonFerrari said:

If they need to produce 25% more than they can sell just to prevent droughts then Nintendo really is bad at planning inventory and reading the market and determine demand.

They producing more than they can or will ship is quite different than produce excessive inventory just to met unrealistic production.

Its not point about what they need but whats good decision, we dont know reason why maybe they want to produce more units than they can ship, maybe they curently have very good deal for some parts, or point that prevent possible future droughts because possible future Switch components shortages on market are logical ones.

Also, Switch sales can explode without shortages problems in 2018. so it's of course better to have some consoles in stock than again face shortages. Again, 5m is nothing for console that's so much popular and that have great sales, those 5m can be sell in one quarter, you clearly overreacting about those possible 5m.

loy310 said:
Pffft..... get real, 17 mil tops.

Switch will end up around 17m after first 13 months on market, so they can easily top 17m in second year on market.

There is no logical approach that make overproduding 5M for shipment plus the 3M or more in channel. That is to much incurred cost. It would be a really high discount to justiify the added cost of making and storing that much consoles?

Nope you are talking 2019, if it produces 30M in 2018 and keep 5M not sold just to sell on a 2019 explosion (how big do you think it will explode after selling 25M? 40M? Because 5M would be 3 months plus the 2 months on channels... it makes zero sense).

I'm overeacting about how silly is to plan to add costs for no benefits just to make some exagerated expectation on a forum go even higher.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."