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fatslob-:O said:
CrazyGamer2017 said:

Well yes that changed when Hitler took power but it is still democracy that brought Hitler to power and that is my point. Democracy does not intrinsically mean peace as proven by Hitler's democratic access to power. Whereas a union like the EU does mean peace. There is yet to be a war inside the EU proving me wrong.

Hitler most certainly did not come into power democratically so the basis for your argument is already undermined in that regard ... 

There's also no precedent that a union brings peace like we see with the roman empire or the US civil war ... 

Ok dude no offense but if you are going to ignore basic historical facts, discussions become pretty much impossible ok?

FYI Hitler was ELECTED and thus came to power. If you want to form an opinion or disagree that's fine but the basic thing is to know what you are talking about cause things are hard enough when people disagree on stuff they know about without adding an extra layer of disagreeing on issues they don't understand. So open up a history book, enjoy the read and then feel free to join the debate.

Just saying.

As for the Roman empire example, it was just that, an empire that conquered through FORCE and INVASION. If you are going to compare the peaceful union of European countries in the present to the brutally conquered land by the Roman empire then you really are clueless as to what we have been talking about in this thread and as to what the EU is about.

As for the US civil war, it was not a conquest, it was a bunch of southern pro-slavery states that tried to leave the US. And while the military option of that time would probably not be viewed today as a 21st century choice, it still did manage to bring peace. Or was the US through civil wars after that? If you check history books, you'll see that it never was again.

Last edited by CrazyGamer2017 - on 07 November 2017