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OTBWY said:
Nymeria said:

Yet even Guardians of the Galaxy knew it had to have a big serious moment without a joke. Groot in first one and Yondu in second at climaz had emotional moments with no undercutting joke. I don't mind humor, but every single time and the delivery was just awful.

 

"Let me tell a joke" something dramatic occurs "Now let me explain the joke for thirty painful seconds". You need more of a balance for payoff in jokes.  It never trusted itself or the audience to care and give them more in a movie of such high stakes with death and destruction.

I was talking just about the second Guardians movie though. The Pacman and Mary Poppins moments really didn't do it for me.

Comedy is subjective.  I thought Pacman and Marry Poppins at very least fit Starlord's personality of relating through childhood nostalgia.  Guardians has always been the silly goofballs who get tangled up in some epic adventure and fumble their way through it.  I got Drax's personality and actually found his relationship with Mantis worked through his own blunt nature. I got Rocket acting out as a defense mechanism, I got Yondu's desire for redemption and Nebulae's earnest need for family.

Thor Ragnarok just felt like winking at the audience about how silly this whole story is and to not really care about anyone.  Thor's climatic battle with Hela actually had some good moments, but they didn't feel as earned because of the juxtaposition of "none of this really matters, no one cares about these people".  It all lacked heart which is why you cheer or laugh at characters feeling very slapped together and rushed like a commitee said, "We have to have Planet Hulk, but cut 90% of why people love that story".

I'd say maybe the worst Marvel Studios movie alongside Iron Man 3 as these two are now the only ones I doubt I'll ever want to watch again.