| Ka-pi96 said: Isn't what you're saying contradictory? On one hand you're saying nationalism is bad, but on the other you're saying people should unite into (larger) nations. I agree that nationalism is bad though. Nations should fall apart, government works so much better when it's on a smaller scale with similar people than when it's spread over a large area with fundamentally different people. I think you're incorrectly giving the EU credit for something that it never did. That didn't stop wars in Europe, the advent of democracy, modern technology, globalisation and self-determination did. You get a lot less wars when you don't have power hungry dictators trying to unite the land under their rule and oppressing minorities. You're the one that lacks vision if you don't think people have the right to decide how to live their own lives. That doesn't happen when they're forced to "unite" with people who hold different beliefs, rather than being able to do their own thing. |
Nationalism is bad when local and union gives birth to supranationalism. I defend supranationalism and not basic nationalism, if you really want me to break down my argument in more detail. Why do you seek contradictions where there are none?
Nations should NOT fall apart, if they do we'd find ourselves centuries back when small nations and kingdoms were at constant war with each other, almost all of the time.
The Union is the major reason there is no war in Europe. Neither democracy nor technology nor globalization can stop war and divison if there is no union. You have wars in Africa, in muslim countries, in poor countries NOW in this technological and globalized world and even in so called democratic countries over there. And dictators oppress and forcefully unite by terror and force EXACTLY because there is division and weakness through division. Countries in Africa are often at war with each other, through single countries or alliances, they invade each other all the time, through INDEPENDENT militias that raid villages and murder people all over the place. How can you not see that?
They "do their own thing" in those countries at war (ironic how you use those words and how they apply perfectly to those war riddled places).
If you don't want to see that division is the past and union is the future, we are, I'm afraid, at odds permanently so I think we are going to have to agree to disagree as they say.
Last edited by CrazyGamer2017 - on 06 November 2017
