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Pemalite said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

Ryzen 2 is slated for 2019 (Pinnacle ridge is just a Speedbump for 2018, not Ryzen 2). Ryzen 3 may be a possibility, but there's no chance there will be a Ryzen 4 by that point already.

Pinnacle Ridge is likely to be more than just a simple speed bump... It might involve a respin as it may be targeting 12nm, which will bring with it errata fixes, clock rate increases and lower power consumption.

That is "Zen+.". Aka. Ryzen 2.

Ryzen 3 will drop the year after in 2019.
Ryzen 4 in 2020.
Note: That the chips name doesn't necessarily have to correspond with a new core architecture.

If there is a delay or a blow out, my statement still stands as we will be "looking at Ryzen 3/4" and not necessarily "have" Ryzen 3/4.
AMD will be iterating on a yearly cadence going forwards.

Nope, AMD specifically stated that Pinnacle Ridge is NOT Ryzen 2. It will probably have a respin and "12nm process" (which is just an improved 14nm process, really) and certainly have errata fixes and a clock rate increase.

However, I doubt there will be much, if any, change in the power consumption (might be a bit due to the bugfixing and metal spin and the improved process, but don't expect anything more than a couple % out of that) and apart from bugfixing it's still fundamentally a first gen Ryzen, hence why AMD doesn't call it Ryzen 2. At best, it's a minimal shrink from the original Ryzen without any other real improvements. It's a Zen Refresh, but no Zen+ or Zen 2