Next Gen Tech (NGT): STORAGE

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KBG29 said:

Zkuq said:

If you're expecting the current generation to last for a whopping nine years in total (plus overlap with the next generation), I don't know what to say. Also, I very much disagree about storage technology delaying the release of a new generation.

Without fast enough storage, there is no way to have a large enough pool of RAM to make a true generational leap. The earlist we could possibly see CPU/GPU/RAM/SSD all line up for a true generational leap is 2020 or 7 years. It comes down to whether they can do it in the $500 or less price range by then. As someone mentioned above though, we are going from 2 K to 4K which is a lot larger leap than 720p to 1080p. So to get a generational leap we need more power than a lot of people are talking.

Pemalite said:

Well. Yes and no.
Western Digital Black 6TB is able to do almost 220MB/s in sustained transfers.

Which means it would take 1 minute, 13 seconds to fill up 16GB.

Where mechanical disks truly tank and SSD's shine however is the random reads/writes... 2MB random reads that same drive will drop to about 80MB/s... Which means it would take 3 minutes, 20 seconds.

Good thing not all transfers will be random reads.

Mechanical disks will be fine for next gen if they are fast mechanical disks... This console generation we were using very slow drives, the Xbox One/Playstation 4 launch mechanical disks were probably 1/3rd this speed at peak rates.

Plus mechanical disks will keep improving untill next gen drops.

I don't think there is any chane we will see a 3.5" drive in the next consoles. Also, 16GB of RAM is not even remotely next gen either, no matter how you stack it up. 

HDD's can have a nice send off with XOX and a PS4 Premium. 16GB of RAM would be perfect for a full 4K PS4. Next gen needs SSD and 64GB RAM minimum, or preferably 128GB. 

If Sony tries to label a 4 Core/8 thread Ryzen APU, with 10 -12Tflops of GPU power, 16GB of RAM, and an HDD as PS5, it will do major damage to the brand. The mass market doesn't want half step devices. Save that stuff for the hardcore, deliver true next gen machines to the main stream.

You want the next gen to cost 2000$???

Anything other than SATA HDDs are too expensive for a console, especially with sizes above 1 Terabyte. 1 terabyte SSD cost over 300$ while a comparable HDD is less than 100$

Worse, you are expecting 64-128 Gbyte of RAM. 64 GB RAM cost already 700$, 128 GB 1500$. And that's not even thinking about where to put all those RAM Chips on the motherboard of console, which would need to be gigantic (E-ATX size at the very least) to fit all that memory

The mass market doesn't want half step devices? Then how come Playstation 4 and Xbox ONE are selling at all? They where deemed weak from the get-go.

As for my expectations for the next gen, these are:

2TB HDD

16-24 GB GDDR6 RAM

4-8 (physical) cores Ryzen2 based CPU, 2.6-3.6 Ghz (the more cores, the less clock)

48-64 Navi-based Compute Units, 1100-1400Mhz to limit consumption

Release date: 2020

The only thing I'm not sure is if they will still use optical discs or not. Unless the price for Flash memory drops significantly they will certainly still use optical discs, otherwise the cartridges would become too expensive (as seen on the Switch already)

Last edited by Bofferbrauer2 - on 05 November 2017