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S.T.A.G.E. on 04 November 2017
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flashfire926 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

As a console Nintendo loses to Microsoft purely because consoles denotes in this era that third party rules. Micorsoft is the most reliant console maker on third party. If nintnedo lacks it, they lose. The problem is the switch will get Wii U games ported and will reflect exactly what the Wii U set out to do and more. They will also have third party support.

To the bolded, I disagree. Switch has a much better library in its first 8 months than the X1 had in its first 8 months.

And no, Nintendo can be successful without third party, its just that the Nintendo's own output for Wii U wasnt nearly as good as it is with switch, or wii, or gamecube. Games like New Super Mario Bros U, Wii Party U, Animal Crossing Amiibo festival, Star fox zero, Paper Mario color splash, along with some other games just werent thaat good.

 Switch is on fire, and it's 2017 output is much better than xbox's 2017 output, even including third party imo.

The Wii U third party was gimped ports, not much else. Switch will also get gimped ports, but there are two upsides. First is portability, and exchanging a few features for portability will be fine with many people. Second, the Switch has a better architecture and considerably better cpu power than the Wii U, so third party ports will be less gimped than before, since the Switch is closer to the PS4/XONE than Wii U. We will also have cases like doom, where you get the whole game, just with a bit weaker graphics.

Nintendo can be successful without third party, but did not fare well for years (outside of the Wii) without a gimmick. If Nintendo went after Sony and Microsoft with a purely traditional console void of third party, they would be destroyed. How do you think Sony beat them in the first place? The switch is on fire and projected to have legs because its also a handheld. Analysts increased their projection based on an expectation that the switch will sell like a traditional handheld and not a console. I don't know if this is commonly understood, but its mostly understood on this website that -he who has the third party will amass a proper audience to survive. Its the exclusives that will make you stand out. If Nintendo had the third party in a traditional capacity, Microsoft wouldnt be able to do much to stop their ascent. it would just be Sony and Nintendo battling it out with new IP after new IP.....welll..as you're seeing now (just with a hybrid vs a traditional console).  Sony and Nintendo are generations ahead of Microsoft in built up studio talent.  It would take Microsoft a generation or two to find even half the truste devs Sony and Nintendo have now, and even then Sony and Nintendo would probably have more by the time they caught up tothe amount of trusted devs they have this gen.