Fate vs. Free Will

[Timmah!]

Lingyis said:

Timmah! said:

One question I've been asked as a Christian (I'm not a big fan of the label, I feel it's been grossly mis-represented by 'religious' people) is- "The Bible says, you did not choose me, but I chose you. Doesn't that mean God condemned some people to Hell without giving them a choice since they weren't chosen?". The best explaination I've ever heard for this is: "To choose us, God looked into the future and saw that we would choose him, so he went back and chose us first by writing our names down in a book that was authored before we were born." It's something that cannot be fully understood by my limited mental capacity.

 

 if you can't understand it... than it's certainly not the best explanation you've ever heard.  how could you just take it for granted then?  

you're much better off saying you take it as a matter of faith--which is universally accepted to be okay as something to "take for granted".

 

Ok, I may have mis-stated what I meant. I'm not saying I can't understand it at all, I understand it in theory. My point is that a mind limited by time cannot fully grasp what it would mean to live in a timeless world. I do accept this on the basis of faith, because there's no way to difinitively prove it. That doesn't mean I can't use words to express what I believe. I wasn't stating this as proven fact, just an explaination of my belief.