67.5M PS4 shipped. 4.2M in Q2. Forecast for FY raised

[DonFerrari]

Miyamotoo said:

DonFerrari said:

The pricetag for the 1Tb when entered was 50 USD higher than 500Gb yes. The MSRP is what counts for pricecuts, checked. So your point is that because dealers are selling bellow MSRP PS4 had further cuts? Fantastic analysis.

Yes you pretend. The point from the begging is that PS4 had small cuts and you come saying it have a big pricecut, bigger HDD and a game bundled on dealers.

No one said you said there will be no further pricecuts. And no one is saying a pricecut makes an automatic peak year. But I said that PS4 so far had little pricecuts and is yet to peak, so with a big pricecut it can peak even later than usual.

No, my point is that PS4 is seling more than a year below MSRP of $300 now.

No I dont, my point was very clear. You wrote that PS4 had small cut, but in reality going from $400 500GB model whitout game to 1TB bundle with game for $300 or to 500GB bundle with game for $250, is not any more just about $100.

It had little official price cuts, but constantly has deals and sales that goes below MSRP or much bigger value (1TB with game) for those same $300.

Who cares if it is selling for less than MSRP if the point is "PRICE CUT", that is a official price from the manufacturer.

You are spinning and moving goal post to try and put that PS4 had somehow a big pricecut. It haven't. And you are yet to provide which of the previous PS system had smaller pricedrop, but you fail to give any because that didn't happen.

Miyamotoo said:

Intrinsic said:

Ok... here is how these things usually works.

An MSRP is just that... a manufacturer sales recommended price. There have always been deals. For every console for all time. But as far as the law goes, the official price of the console is still $299. When you see it on TV ads, they will brandish starting at $299. When people want to go buy it, they aren't all going to be going armed with the tech enthusist forum visiting knowledge that you can get it for less. Its $299.

Now make no mistake, everything out there is being sold at some sort of discounted price or deal.

The real cool thing though is this.... when the price of the console officially drops to $199, there will still be deals. So at that point you will get it from most outlets for $199 and probably even with a free game.

If you go around telling people that the PS4 costs $250? you are misleading them, cause thats not the official price. And what everyone arguing with you has been trying to tell you is that at $199, the PS4 is most likely going to sell more than it is currently selling at $250/$300.

That really depends, for instance Switch is $300 and bundle with game is $360, and hardly you can buy cheaper than that in any case,  so we are talking about same ofical and real price on market. That isnt case with PS4, official price is $300 but you can buy it at lower price at any time or you can buy much better bundle value for same official MSRP for base PS4 bundle. My point is very clear, MSRP of PS4 on market is one thing but real price with constant sales and offers is something else, and offcourse that PS4 will have further price cuts.

Now let's go compare a system that have deals after 4 years in the market and have plenty of stock with a system that just released and had lineup to buy... sure the same thing.

We could go and say PS4Pro sells for 400 USD without games on the base set and so PS4 didn't had any pricecut, just a new model taking over... or for that you'll bring a question that when a new car comes buy and the old model is sold for clearance that is a pricecut?