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StarDoor said:
DonFerrari said:

25% pricecut on initial pricing after 4 years on the market and shipping almost 70M, that is almost no price cut compared to any previous PS.

Using percentages is misleading. The cheapest PS3 model 4 years after release was $299. What this really means is that PS4 has been either equal in price or cheaper than PS3 for its entire lifecycle so far. Not to mention the frequent PS4 firesales to $250: Uncharted 4 + PS4 Slim was $250 on Amazon for the entire summer.

How is misleading when discussing PRICECUTS? If you preffer raw number ok. PS3 launched for 499 and 599, but was cut by 300 USD less than 4 years later, PS4 only by 100 USD... so PS3 had bigger pricecuts and because of it cadence it peaked very later than usual.

And If you want to play the price game, X1 have been cheaper than PS4, PS3 and X360 most of time as well and it is nowhere close to outselling them.

Miyamotoo said:
DonFerrari said:

25% pricecut on initial pricing after 4 years on the market and shipping almost 70M, that is almost no price cut compared to any previous PS.

But its not point only about pricing, you get twice bigger storage and one game alongside those 25% price cut, again base PS4 500GB model without game was $400, PS4 500GB with one game was $450 at launch. Also we have regular sales of PS4 with one game for $250.

Kerotan said:

Ps4 will be far superior for Sony though in terms of profits. For Sony it will be by far it's most successful ever. 

I don't see how profit has anything with matter we talking about (when PS4 peak year will be).

xl-klaudkil said:

Doesn't  matter  what  comes with  it, 300  is still 300 ( and 250) and there not mainstream  prices. 

Ofcourse its matters when very often you have sales of PS4 with one game for $250, and you even now have A PS4 1TB with one game for $300 even official price of $300 is just for base model whitout game.

PS3 had increase in HD space and more games bundled those weren't considered pricecuts, and most customers only ever care about the pricetag of the baseline not if anything else was added when looking for a price.

But ok Go and check the pricecuts for PS1, 2 and 3 and say if any of then had a schedule for pricecut similar to PS4 in how long it took for the pricecuts to come.

Shadow1980 said:
Forecast increased by another million? Well, that further demolishes the argument that some have made that the PS4 can't be up YoY because it won't have the supply needed. Assuming the PS4 ships about the same amount of units this coming Jan.-March quarter as it did for this past Q1, it'll be at 76M units shipped by year's end. It could sell 20M for the whole calendar year (+14.3% YoY) and still have 2.6M unsold units left in the supply chain.

You were the guy I was waiting for... please help our guys here to remember what usually are the peak years for consoles.



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