Trump's tax proposal: raise taxes on the poor, give to the rich

[LurkerJ]

Final-Fan said:

LurkerJ said:

(2) I was specifically talking about estate tax and inheritance tax. The deceased had already paid their share of fair taxes, why do you feel entitled to take more of his/her money? because you think they have too much of it? What is too much money anyway? Who gets to decide? 

One can simply argue that 100k dollars is too much money to be passed to your kids without giving some of it to the government, because 100k dollars can be considered too much money. Hell, even 100 can be too much.

You didn't answer point (1). 

(2) If taxation in general is not necessarily theft, why is an estate tax necessarily theft? 

If you are against the estate tax because of the fact that its collected revenue overlaps with wealth already diminished by income taxes over the person's lifetime, are you eqully vehemently opposed to sales taxes collected from money you already are paying income taxes on?  (Or vice versa) 

"Who gets to decide?"  Well, I believe that taxes in the United States are mostly set by legislature, and although our legislative bodies are not ideal they are at least vaguely accountable to the people via elections.  The nitty gritty of collection and the accompanying judgment calls are delegated to agencies like the IRS.  Do you really not know this information? 

I'm not sure I understand what the point of your final argument is.  Is it supposed to be a slippery slope thing?  If so, it's ridiculously weak.

2.5  You also didn't answer this.  I guess you don't have to, but I was really curious what your answer would have been. 

If I sound ridiculously stupid discussing the matter with you it's because I am ignorant and simply not informed enough about the system of taxation in the USA or elsewhere, and as we know, ignorance breeds stupidity, apologies for that. I'll stop using terms like estate tax and inheritance tax because I am not entirely sure what they entail yet.

The only thing I can tell you is that I think taking money only from millionaires, after they've passed away, sounds like a very discriminatory concept. And yes, it does sound like theft to me when it's applied to a very small group of the population. And what's the rational behind such applying this tax selectively? "They have too much money", which is, again, a very subjective definition. 

The original post you quoted was me respoing to Signalstar, who argues that passing a lot of money to your relatives encourge them to be lazy. I find that argument extremely hypocritical, because it is, in a way, similar to the argument the people on the right make when they disucss welfare programs; "they encourge the poor to be lazy". At least, when rich people are encourged to be lazy, they will be not be a burden on the rest because they can simple live off what they have, unlike the poor.

Hats off for Trump and the rich for fighting against it, that's how minorities should react when they're oppressed. Some people worked their entire lives to provide the best life they can to their children, for many, it's the sole motivation that keeps them going, not the government. 

Finally, I am not dodging your questions,I am simply not informed enough to answer them