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Errorist76 on 20 October 2017
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torok said:
DonFerrari said:

So now you aren't that certain that they reutilized right? And still waiting for the list anyway.

I'm not talking about they can't use, I agree that the models of GT5 and 6 could be. I'm saying that from interviews I saw they recreated because they thought they weren't precise enough (not that they didn't had enough polygons).

I sincerely don't think the level of graphics on Toy Story is above what PS4 can do, but it still is pretty to this day, and also we can't deny that single directed position of camera and offtime rendering helps a lot. One of the reasons I loved the CGI of the FFs.

About physics and the rest you know that Kaz said if the physics is complicated you are doing it wrong right? I really don't think that besides the sound capture the rest would take much effort from PD, it would mostly be tweaking and updating of the cars on GT5-6. If they decide to make GT7 probably those will be sucked in very fast.

What are you talking about here, mate? Of course they didn't reused models for cars that were not in the previous games, because they didn't had them.

They didn't recreated the 3D models. At best, they adjusted slightly one or another, instead of throwing away years of work. They would have to be stupid otherwise. If they were worried about the precision of the simulation, this has not to do with the 3D models here.

Even the OG Toy Story does stuff that it's still not possible on realtime rendering and it's a 20 years old movie. The camera position really doesn't change much (pixel shaders are the most demanding part, that's why changing resolution has a almost 1:1 effect in performance). Offline rendering, of couse, helps a lot. Basically, you can afford to render at 0.0001 fps instead of 60 fps.

I kind of agree with Kaz point here. A lot of the physics on the game are Newton's. Things like aerodynamics are more complicated because to be precise you need to simulate a fluid. Anyway, GTS probably just add more calculations that were not affordable on the PS3.

And yes, they can really do GT7 fast. Two years is a decent timeframe to expect it, that's quite fast for AAA standards. Next year only if they were already working on it (which is always possible).

 

They are not doing a GT7, at least not on PS4. GTS will get updated over time, is this so hard to understand. PD are not Turn 10.