DonFerrari said:
Nuvendil said:
PS4 is brought up for two obvious reasons. First, in order to win the NPD it beat the PS4 since the PS4 is consistently first otherwise so might as well bring it up as the statement "won an NPD" obviously includes the statement "beat the PS4".
Second, the PS4 is the only system in the NPD that frankly matters for the comparison. The Vita and Wii U are long dead in the States, the Xbox One is in the pits right now, and the 3DS is on the fade. The Switch beating them is not significant. The Switch beating the PS4, trending to be one of the best selling systems of all time, actually matters. It's the same as why people stopped paying any attention to Switch vs Wii U launch alined. The Wii U was a sales disaster. The Switch beating the Wii U launch aligned or the Xbone even by a significant margin would be a pretty bad metric for saying the Switch is doing well.
To go back to my boxing analogy, you have 2 fighters. One has 10 straight KOs. The other goes 8 and 2, 8 won by unanimous decision and 2 lost by split decision. HOWEVER the first guy fought 10 tomato cans, dudes with terrible win-loss ratios. The second guy fought the top 10 boxers in the division. The second guy is more arguably killing it, the first guy is just beating up people who barely know what they're doing. It's not about the severity of your wins, it's about how good you are doing at what you are doing. It's about consistent excellence. It's just excellence is always somewhat relative, hence why competition is brought up.
That's why the PS4 brought up NOT as a put down on the PS4, but BECAUSE it is so successful. Winning the NPD is all good but the fact is the PS4 is the only system that matters as a metric. When a system is trending to sell over 100mil, of course it will get brought up as the main point of comparison in threads like this as beating or matching it is an accomplishment. Beating the other systems in NPD right now is not an accomplishment.
So stop looking for a put down of the PS4 because it being *the* competitor is the reason it's brought up.
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And I like that all your explaning brings comparison on the use of killing it, showing that implicitly the term does comparison.
But I'm fine with you using it as just meaning Switch is doing good. But you can't deny that some in the thread were using it straight on the doing much better than PS4.
And considering the context that were brought Switch winning 6 and PS4 2, but on sum PS4 being ahead than Switch can't make any comparison based on pure numbers totally Switch winning because, perhaps by end of year it will.
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Excellence is always somewhate relative. A console selling this well is killing it. If the Iphone was selling these numbers it would be an unmitigated catastrophe on an unprecedented scale.
But no, the first statement of someone saying it was "killing it" was just that, it was great. Then someone swooped in and said it couldn't be killing it because it wasn't beating PS4 enough. Ignoring that said person never meant the PS4 was getting destroyed but the Switch was doing great. The PS4 happening to be the metric was happenstance. If Xbone were the one dominating, it would be Xbone. If 3DS was outselling the two, it would be that.