Ka-pi96 said:
monocle_layton said:
The Israeli/Palestinian issue concerns zionists more than jews honestly.
Muslims aren't perfect, but people forget that there are Palestinian Christian, Jews, and Muslims, and most of them experience rather harsh difficulties from settlers and heckling from the IDF.
Truth is that neither side is perfect, but no one cares. Either you support Palestine sometimes and are considered a leftist fascist or support Israel sometimes and are considered a conservative christian nut.
It's disappointing to see how people think it's 100% religion when a lot of the problems stem from geopolitical and self-identification issues. After all, settlers taking Palestinian land and attacking people aren't religious issues. Neither are reports of attacks from the IDF/settlers and the mob-like mentality many Israelis have towards non-jews and arabs. We shouldn't forget that an Israeli Arab warned people of a shooter, and yet he was almost killed because the people there automatically assumed that 'first arab=the shooter'.
Truth be told, the situation is something people are ignorant about, and it pisses me off. I love visiting the place, and it isn't rare to see Palestinian/Israeli integration. It's certain issues besides religion that create the noticeable gap.
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I realise the israeli massacres of Palestinians isn't something that all jews participate in or want. But israel does make up quite a large chunk of jews and gets a lot of support from non-israeli jews as well.
Leftist fascist though? First time I've heard that. Don't you need to be right wing to be a fascist?
I realise it's also not 100% religious. jews are tricky on that front, they're kind of a religion and a culture at the same time. But really they never should have been put their in the first place. That wasn't really Britain/America's land to give. And they definitely shouldn't have continued taking more afterwards. Should have stayed Palestinian land ideally with an agreement that jews could relocate there if they wanted (and would of course have equal rights and treatment if they did so). Seems much too late for anything like that though.
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My first comment was meant to be more a joke, so a leftist fascist isn't exactly possible.
As for the situation, I just don't like seeing Palestinians get mistreated. It's not fair to have them be kicked off their land for settlers. The IDF also shouldn't have so much physical power - people think the US police force is bad, but the IDF is much worse
