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SvennoJ said:
I guess that's a new first for Star Trek, using the F word in casual conversation. In the latest episode The Klingons have become weaker again, honor doesn't seem to be part of Klingons at all anymore, the humans are more brutal again, the plot makes less sense again, more fighting amongst eachother again. So for consistency, 9/10.

Only thing that STD has over Orville is production value, but given that everything else is pretty much garbage (that shroom blink drive just cracks me up everytime), it's just wasted money. Orville is getting to be more and more like TNG (I even get accustomed somewhat to bad cast), while STD is getting as far away from proper Trek as I initially thought it would - if I'm being honest, it's even worse that I thought it would be, STD doesn't have anything resembling Gene's Trek.