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JRPGfan said:
OTBWY said:
I watched the latest Discovery episode and.. It's still not growing on me. It is JJ trek.

The Orville on the other hand is getting better and better. The 4th episode was TNG imo.

Feel the exact oppersite of this.

Orville already started getting boreing around the 4th episode.

While the more Discovery I watched the better I liked it.

 

Zoombael said:
Ok. I just watched the first 5 minutes of The Orville Season 1 Ep.2. I couldn't watch any further, because it was unbearable. Badly written jokes dragged out to make sure the audience gets there is supposedly a very funny thing happening on screen.

And the new ST series is even worse? I can't imagine how.

tastes vary, but I agree.... not sure what people in this thread see in Orville, after the 4th episode I dropped it.

ST discovery is much better imo.

Orville's humor is rather hit and miss, yet the characters are likeable and they stop to reason things through which is sorely missing from STD. STD is not trek, it's anything goes, terrorist attacks, enslavement, simple annihilation. It's just a ship filled with scum and a clueless cadet as some sort of badly written counterpoint.  First contact with a new species, and the first action is to weaponize it, then enslave it to operate their rushed blink drive.

Episode 6 of the Orville shows the moral dilemma and potential consequences. STD would have simply blown the whole ship out of the sky with a bunch of fireworks, then cheered about it. Yet perhaps a new generation wants to see Star Trek drop the atomic bomb to end the war instead of finding a better solution. STD is simple, humans good, klingons bad. And ofcourse the klingons are written the same. The Orville's approach is to try to understand the Krill to find a way to make peace. The word peace hasn't even been mentioned yet on STD afaik.