5 times scalpers totally screwed themselves over

[DonFerrari]

CrazyGamer2017 said:

DonFerrari said:

you can't confuse the value with pricetag. If someone pays 200 for a item that have a 50usd pricetag he values the item for 200 or more and that is why he bought it.

No product value is the sum of the cost of its parts.

Compare scalping to robbery is a very hard reach.

The fault for the existence of scalpers is both supplier that doesn't do their job estimating demand and want their product to look on high demand and enable scalpers to buy and also people that can't keep their desire checked and buy from scalpers.

As much as a company have a right to produce how much they want, anyone have the right to buy it.

True that suppliers that don't do their job for whatever reason have a responsibility in the crime of scalping but just as a law broken for whatever reason means criminality in general can go higher does not mean that criminals aren't the first ones to be blamed for their crimes cause they definitely are.

As for the demand, it is the prime motivator for a scalper to commit his/her crime. And the price something is sold at is supposed to reflect the value of the product and a higher price is only justified by an added value, for example if you buy a pizza in a store for you to cook it should be fairly cheap, if you call Domino Pizza cause you want them to bring you a pizza that is hot and ready to eat, they add value by cooking the pizza and bringing it to you so it is fair that they ask a higher price than what you'd pay that pizza in a store, but scalpers don't add any value, they short-circuit the market by obtaining as many copies of a product as possible so that they can artificially increase the price but they add no value whatsoever to the product. The buyer cannot say, your price is too high so I'll just go to a store and buy the product there at normal price because the scalper made sure there are NO units left in stores so as to make the buyer have no choice if they want the product. It's plain wrong and should definitely be criminalized.

And it's weird that you don't realize that.

So should we also make laws controling the producting and making it unlawfull for companies to produce few units and having customer waits as well?

What value does stores add to the products sold? Because they didn't produce it, they are just selling it, just like scalpers. So they should sell for the price the producer sells it?

I'll say again and perhaps you can read a little on it. Adding value or the value itself isn't a reflex of the pircetag. Or should we as well make a crime to sell a Da Vinci painting for over 100 USD because that was the price it was originally sold at?

CrazyGamer2017 said:

Ka-pi96 said:

hmm, Amazon's regular delivery is 3-5 days, everyone else does it in 1-2 days. Sounds to me like they're purposely creating a situation where people are more likely to pay for faster delivery and preying on peoples impatience the exact same way scalpers do. Do you have a problem with that too?

No because at the end of the day I don't have to pay more, whereas with a scalper you cannot say: Don't send me the product tomorrow, send it in 3-5 days in exchange of selling me the product at no extra cost.

Good luck getting that deal from a scalper.

That is not to say that Amazon cannot be criticized for their practices. But the way you are trying to vindicate scalpers with something way less serious as waiting 5 days from Amazon, sounds to me like you really want to make me believe scalpers are alright.

As said you can just say I won't buy.

CrazyGamer2017 said:

Ka-pi96 said:

You could quite easily say to scalpers "don't send me the product at all, I'll wait until the stores restock". Nobody is forcing people to pay those inflated prices. Just like they're not force to pay for express shipping on Amazon or other internet retailers.

The difference being, the scalper will try and get all units of that product when the stores restock so as to precisely prevent you from having any other choice. Because if a product is not rare and if you can find it elsewhere at the normal price, the scalper's fraudulent business model disappears. It is by essence how this works, you cannot get the product elsewhere, if you can then there is no scalping...

Personally even if I really want something and it's not available elsewhere, I simply give up cause I'll cut my throat open long before I agree to pay a scalper, but that's just me. The world is full of impatient idiots that will pay anything. I have seen the NES mini sold for thousands of dollars by scalpers when the store price is 60 dollars. Humans are very stupid and scalpers should be stopped by the law. Just as hard drugs are illegal cause people are too stupid to realize when they buy and take those drugs that it will destroy their body and health so drugs had to be made illegal. Same idea with scalpers, in my opinion of course.

Read at least a little about monopolistic practices. The scalpers can't just buy all products made, at one point or another the cost of buying and revenue from sales won't match. As long as people don't keep paying excessive for the scalpers they won't keep doing it.

Nintendo had issues for 2 or 3 years on stocking, would you fault the scalpers? Wii was being sold for more than PS3. I fault Nintendo.

Thanks god you aren't a congressman, because you would make a law for everything you dislike.