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DonFerrari said:
Chris Hu said:

I'm guessing your talking about Shift and Shift 2: Unleashed never played either one but the studio that developed both games now develops Project Cars so I'm pretty sure the Shift games are closer to being simulators then being arcade racers.

Nope, I'm talking about you thinking being tunnable already make the gameplay simulator instead of arcade.

Chris Hu said:

Sure whatever you say but pretty much all people that try to disprove that the Forza Motorsports games aren't good sim games never use stock cars with all the asists turned off and manual transmission.

And you that try to prove FM7 is better run on easy... so doesn't put what others race against me.

I don't play FM7 on the easiest setting the game pretty much plays itself and the only reason I know this is because in the money glitch that got patched you had to do 2 laps on Daytona on super easy before doing a 30 second race on the same track in professional mode (all the assist turned of and manual transmission).