Why is there no thread about Spain reverting to fascism?

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Ka-pi96 said:

outlawauron said:
Well, it's absolutely illegal, so it's not surprising to see Spain use force to keep the country together. I do think that Catalan should have the right to secede if they want to, but why would you expect Spain to just bend over and take it?

Democratic votes and self-determination is "absolutely illegal"? Not in any free and democratic country it's not!

Was there any suggestion that those wanting independence would even win the vote? I've no doubt that there's a whole lot more people that want independence now than there was a week ago. So if they do eventually end up going independent then it will be partly because the Spanish government pushed them in that direction. And by not allowing a democratic vote to even find out if the Catalan people want independence, let alone actually granting it they are effectively saying the only way to go independent is by actually declaring independence and fighting a war for it. Is that really want Spain want? Is that what the EU want? Countries falling in to civil war simply because they can't respect democracy? Why don't you ask Turkey what the EU thought of their (attempted and brief) civil war?

If I want to secede my property from a nation, and form my own country, can I do that as long as I have a majority of the people that live there vote for it? ie. only me?