Being anti-nazi shouldn't be political or controversial

[Errorist76]

CrazyGamer2017 said:

Errorist76 said:

No man, Hitler's ideology was way worse than Caesar's so don't try to equalise them. It wouldn't be acceptable to play as a Nazi at all. It would be nice to see a game from the average German soldier's perspective one day, not all Germans were Nazis...far from it. The minority were, just as only a minority supports Trump today...but don't get me wrong, Trump is no Hitler..(at least yet..he's missing the intellect for better or worse)...and I don't want to compare him directly with him, but there are certain parallels in the way both came to power which are clearly noticeable. 

Concerning your point...Of course it's arguable that the fight against the native Americans, Incas etc. (the "Untermenschen" (subhumans) of said time) or Stalin's Gulags were just the same evil - they were, at least partly, indeed - but that doesn't mean we should demonize the Nazis less...it means we should recognise the other crimes against humanity more!

Then we're going to have to agree to disagree on that first statement of yours that I put in bold. Caesar not only was just as cruel as Hitler was though with a different agenda, cause his armies would massacre, rape, torture (women, children, even men), only rich and powerful people were allowed to vote, slaves were kept for all purposes, fight to the DEATH, sex (and by sex I mean constant rape including of children) Public amusement consisted of watching people being mauled and devoured by lions in a public stadium etc...

Anyway, Ceasar was not only at least just as cruel as Hitler, he was FAR FAR from being the only leader at the time. Basically every leader before him and every one after him within the Roman Empire was just as cruel and the pain never ended, AT LEAST After Hitler died things got better in Germany.

As for the second point I put in bold at the end of your post, I couldn't agree more, I am 100% with what you are saying there and if you read me again you'll notice that it is pretty much in essence what I was trying to say.

I guess were on the same train and yes, if you put it that way Caesar WAS indeed just as cruel from a physical standpoint, but the whole thing about democracy and belief is the key, which makes the big difference in my eyes. Which makes it so much more relatable to us than the Roman times. Hitler tactically used the anger and disappointment in the population to install his fascist regime and, while trying to conquer Europe, put a final solution to the 'Judenfrage', which in the end let to a machinery of before unknown moral darkness. To feel comissioned to kill each and every one of a certain descent/belief - although he certainly wasn't the only one at that time who had a problem with jews and was backed by both the US and the Sowjets for a long time - just to eradicate them from this planet.

Of course you'll now state that the crusades against the muslims had the same goal, and I'll say...hey, but they fought and worked it out in the end. Like civilised people do, and I think that's the key here...we believe we're more civilised these days, even though I'm sometimes not so sure if that's true considering the big picture. At least we should be civilised enough that we learn from past mistakes and I guess that's why it's so important to recognise the signs, when stuff is going to shit another time at another place, be it the US, Russia, Turkey or Myanmar.

It's just never ok to be ok with it.